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Suggestions for Civs' Palace Styles

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Guandao, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    With the revelation that some of the pre-existing Civs (ex: Sumeria, England, Spain) will receive new Palace Styles, I think it is time for a thread about suggestions for new Palace Styles, either for old Civs/City-States, or for new/returning Civs. Feel free to suggest specific palaces/buildings as the inspiration for a new Palace style or an update to a pre-R&F Civ.
     
  2. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    List of Changes to pre-existing Civ/City-State Palace styles
    America
    (using RAM): can stay the same (it's a bit weird they used the Capitol building instead of the White House for the American palace)
    Arabia (using RMUG): can stay the same (there doesn't seem to be much trace of Saladin's palace in Cairo left....)
    Australia (using a unique Palace): can stay the same
    Aztec (using RSA): can stay the same, even though the style is based on a Mesoamerican temple pyramid instead of an actual Aztec palace.
    Brazil (using RSA): needs to be changed, maybe it can share RSPN with Spain until Portugal gets it's own Palace Style, or a unique one based on the Paco Imperial
    Canada: has its own style
    China (using RC): can stay the same, or have its roof flattened
    Cree: has its own unique style
    Egypt (using RNA): can stay the same
    England (using RENG)
    France (using RE): I guess it can continue using RE, I wouldn't mind a style based on Versailles though
    Georgia: will share RBAL with Russia
    Germany (using RE): can stay the same, or change to Palace of Aachen, Hohenstaufen Castle, Palatine Chapel/Aachen Cathedral.
    Greece (using RMED): can stay the same (did ancient Greek palaces have domes though?)
    Hungary: has its own unique style
    Inca: the Inca have their own unique style
    India (using RMUG): I guess it can stay the same, they decided a more Mughal style palace even though the current Indian leaders so far aren't Mughal...
    Indonesia (using RIND): change to Majapahit architecture, or Balinese style palace
    Japan (using RJ): can stay the same
    Khmer (using RIND): can stay the same
    Kongo (using RSS): can stay the same
    Korea: has its own unique style
    Macedon (using RMED)
    Mali: has its own unique style
    Maori: the Maori have their own unique style
    Mapuche: has its own unique style
    Mongolia: has its own unique style
    Netherlands: has its own unique style
    Norway (using RE): I wouldn't mind it being changed, possibly a fantastical version incorporating some elements of Stave Churches
    Nubia (using a unique style): can stay the same
    Ottoman: has its own unique style
    Persia (using RMUG): I guess it works for Islamic Persia, but I would prefer something more like Persepolis
    Phoenicia: has its own unique style?
    Poland (using a unique style): can stay the same
    Rome (using RMED): can stay the same
    Russia (using RBAL)
    Scotland (using RSCT)
    Scythia (using RMUG): not sure if it should be changed, did the Scythians have architecture?
    Spain (using RSPN)
    Sumeria (using RSUM)
    Sweden: has its own unique style
    Zulu: has its own unique style

    City-States
    Antananarivo:
    currently using RSS
    Antioch: currently using RMED
    Armagh: currently using RE
    Auckland: currently using RE
    Babylon: currently using RMUG, should be changed to RSUM
    Bandar Brunei:
    Brussels:
    currently using RSCT
    Buenos Aires: currently using RSA, should be changed to RSPN
    Carthage: currently using RNA
    Geneva: currently using RMED
    Granada: currently using RNA, should be changed to RMUG
    Hattusa: currently using RMED, should be changed to RSUM
    Hong Kong: currently using RJ, should be changed to RC
    Jerusalem: currently using RMED, should be changed to RSUM
    Kabul: currently using RMUG
    Kandy: currently using RMUG, should be changed to RIND
    Kumasi: currently using RSS
    La Venta: currently using RSA
    Lisbon: currently using RMED, should be changed to RSPN
    Mohenjo-Daro: currently using RMUG
    Muscat: currently using RMED, should be changed to RMUG
    Nan Madol: currently using RC, should be changed to RSA perhaps? or share their style with a Polynesian Civ?
    Palenque: currently using RSA
    Preslav: currently using RMED
    Stockholm: currently using RE
    Toronto: currently using RAM, maybe it could be altered to RE?
    Valletta: currently using RMED
    Vilnius: currently using RE
    Yerevan: currently using RE, should be changed to RSUM or maybe RBAL?
    Zanzibar: currently using RSS
     
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  3. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    List of Suggestions for New Palace Styles for Returning or New Civs
    Returning Civs:
    Assyria:
    can share RSUM
    Austria: can share RE or have one based on Schonbrunn Palace
    Babylon: can share RSUM
    Byzantines: can share RMED (we know very little of how the Great Palace of Constantinople looked)
    Denmark: either RE or a unique style shared with Norway, or one based on Sophie Amalienborg
    Ethiopia: can use RSS or one based on Fasil Ghebbi
    Hittite: can shared RSUM
    Iroquois: maybe the Cree palace style? or a fancy looking Longhouse?
    Maya: can share RSA, or use their own style (like the palace in Palenque)
    Morocco: can share RMUG
    Polynesia (if it remains a blob Civ): a unique style, which could be shared with Nan Madol, Samoan Palace, Tongan Royal Palace, Kamehameha's house, Iolani Palace, Turangawaewae
    Portugal: either RSPN or a unique style shared with Brazil, or one based on Pena Palace, Palace of Queluz, or Palace of Sintra
    Siam: can share RIND
    Sioux: share with the Cree? or have one based on a giant Tipi....
    Venice: Doge's Palace

    New Civs:
    Afghanistan:
    Tajbeg Palace
    Argentina: Casa Rosada
    Armenia: RBAL?
    Ashanti: Manhyia Palace
    Belgium: Royal Palace of Brussels
    Benin: Oba of Benin Palace,
    Bohemia: Prague Castle or Karlstejn
    Brunei: Istana Nurul Iman
    Bulgaria: reconstructed Palace of Omurtag
    Burma: Kanbawzathadi, Amarapura, Mandalay
    Dahomey: Abomey
    Finland: Presidential Palace
    Gran Colombia: Palacio de San Carlos
    Indus Valley: RMUG?
    Ireland: Rock of Cashel
    Israel: a fanciful reconstruction of the Large Stone Structure
    Italy: Palazzo Medici Riccardi, Royal Palace of Milan, Doge's Palace in Genoa, Apostolic Palace, Doge's Palace in Venice
    Kievan Rus': ? link
    Lithuania: Palace of the Grand Dukes
    Madagascar: something similar to the Rova of Antananarivo
    Malaysia: Melaka Sultanate Palace Museum
    Malta: Grandmaster's Palace
    Micronesia: something based on Nan Madol
    Moors: Alhambra
    Muisca: Temple of the Sun, Muisca architecture
    Navajo: Window Rock
    Nepal: Narayanhity Palace
    New Zealand: Premier House
    Olmecs: ? RSA?
    Oman: Al Alam Palace
    Philippines: Malacanang Palace
    Powhatan: Lodge
    Romania: Bran Castle
    Seleucid: RMED?
    Serbia: Royal Palace in Belgrade,
    Somalia: Somali architecture
    Sri Lanka: Royal Palace of Kandy or Sigiriya
    Swahili: Sultan's Palace or Husuni Kubwa (I know this is getting added as a Wonder)
    Switzerland: Federal Palace
    Tibet: a variation of the Potala Palace
    Timurids: Samarkand architecture
    Tlingit: Plank house, Chief Shakes Tribal House,
    Vietnam: Imperial City of Hue
    Yoruba: ?RSS?
     
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  4. Phrozen

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    Modern Ethiopian palace and even going back to the 17th century look remarkably European.





    Though Menelik's palace is quite unique
     
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    Paço Imperial, the palace of Pedro II and every Emperor before him.
    Spoiler Paço Imperial :


    For Macedonia, the Skopsko Kale could be good, although it'd have to be made a lot smaller and simplified.
    Spoiler Skopje Kale :
     
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    I don't really like the Chinese palace actually.

    I presume they dun wanna make its style crush with the Forbidden Palace wonder so they take reference to other palaces.

    Maybe they took reference to something like the pic below, a complex with many platforms.


    I don't want to complain its accuracy of recreating a chinese palace. But I can't bear the irrational size of the roof.

    With the roof being too tall, the main structure just looks...weirdly unbalanced. And what is that chopstick-like giant wood strip on top of the building?

    I hope they can flatten the roof to balance the already tall building.
     
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    And... despite my many efforts, I still cannot find the entrance of the Egyptian palace. The staircase are leading into the walls IMAO. Cleo must be using a secret passage (or climbing the walls?) into her bedroom.
     
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    Alexander's Macedon is not Republic of Macedonia though.
    I agree that Brazil and Portugal could share a similar style.
    Also Nan Madol should get an Oceania style, especially if a Polynesian one comes along:

    This is the best looking one I could find.
    For Norway:

    I know it's a picture of a stave church, but these look more impressive and could pass as looking like a wooden palace. Still better than using the pan-European style which I think is really only fine for France.
     
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    Well, Norway already has the Stave Church as its unique infrastructure, so if we based the new Norwegian palace style on a stave church, it has to be different looking somehow....
    Stave Church (Civ6).png
     
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    I know, that one looked more palace-like is what I meant. Here is one I found that looks better:
    upload_2018-1-19_11-11-49.jpeg
    It's not realistic but I like the concept for the first one: Viking Style.
    Castle with the wooden architectural roof. Couldn't find anything resembling it in real life other than gaming/virtual media.
     
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    Bohemia could also use Karlštejn Castle.

    Karlštejn.jpg

    And Venice/Italy could also use Doge's Palace in Venice.
     
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    RSS would work for Axum. They had stone palaces like that. I am not sure if the stone walls were covered. Most likely they were.
     
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    1.) Unique Palaces should be tied to the leader and not to the civ, since capitals are as well.
    2.) Egypt doesn't fit at all to our understanding of Egyptian palaces. In fact, until I looked closer, I always thought it was a Mesopotamian palace.
    3.) I personally like palaces that clearly look like the leader/civ they belong to without being just an existing building. They should more be the essence of the architectural style than a certain building imho.
    4.) The size adjustment that has to be made for the palaces leads to some looking strange (this is also connected with point 3). Palaces should be designed to look good in that proportions. RSUM, RSS, RMED, RENG and RSPN seem doing very well here. The others have too big roofs or just silly proportions.

    That said, Germany needs a nice palace (that doesn't look too French). Barbarossa didn't really use one for a long time. Since Aachen is the capital, the Cathedral there with Charlemagne's throne would fit. It is, however, a Cathedral and not a palace. So if only the Palatine Chapel, that contains the throne room, is used it would be nice. It would look really weird isolated from the Cathedral, though. Burg Hohenstaufen would be a possibility for Frederick, since this is his 'home castle,' it is however not in Aachen and not in a city in general.
     
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    5.) Why is America's based on Congress but England's not based on Parliament? England's actually looks like the Parliament building from Victoria BC.
     
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    Wasn't Germany getting a new palace? I think it was in the Korean livestream.
     
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    Do you want me to add Axum as a New Civ or consider it Ethiopia?

    Being critical of my specific Palace suggestions? :p Then suggest architectural styles for them!
     
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    I would consider it Ethiopia. In fact that would by my ideal Ethiopia as they did call themselves Ethiopian. :)
     
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    I am thinking why they are not using Windsor castle or Hampton Court for england. This will surely distinct the british architecture from either french or US styles.

    Or i dun really mind if they reuse the Westminster Abbey's style or the parliament building (which is used in the big ben wonder) into it.

    The new palace makes me mistaken it as white house if it is painted in white.
     
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    Totally agree on point 1-4. but i wonder if they will put so much resources into developing these details.

    I think the main problem in the Egyptian one lies in the color and texture it is using.

    The palace shows brick works, which is a mesopotamian feature. That makes us feel like it is Sumerian ( and weirdly, the sumerian palace does not show much bricks)

    The Egyptian style should have a smoother outer surface, like this one. The ancient egyptians polished the outer walls into smooth surfaces and brick work will rarely be shown.

    Spoiler Egyptian example :


    Spoiler In contrast to a mesopotamian style, taking Ishtar gate as an example: :

    In contrast to a mesopotamian style, taking Ishtar gate as an example:




    Also the current egyptian palace uses a color too dark. As seen from the above example, it should have a more yellowish and pale sand like color, or sth similar to the sphinx in game.

    (although i think Cleo's palace maybe a mixture of greek and egyptian style)
     
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    Didn't the Egyptians also paint their palaces and temples? They should be very colourful at least.

    Brussels/Belgium
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    Preslav/Sofia
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    Hungary:
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    or something in the Danube style (pictured below, the Opera House in the City of Russe, Bulgaria and the Town Square in the city of Timisoara, Romania):


    (could be shared between Austria, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria)
     

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