Shaitan
der Besucher
A thread has been opened to discuss the Foreign Affairs activity proposal for the next chat turn.
The Department of Foreign Affairs - Term 2
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Shaitan
der Besucher
The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring a Citizen Poll to determine if Chat Turn Instruction Threads should be used.
EDIT: This suggestion has received overwhelming support and will be added to a proposed Constitutional amendment.
EDIT: This suggestion has received overwhelming support and will be added to a proposed Constitutional amendment.
Shaitan
der Besucher
The Department applauds this plan but has some reservations because it will delay our planned activity to mitigate Chinese agression. Details can be found in the above link.
Shaitan
der Besucher
ROP deals will quickly increase the other civs' opinions of us. They count as active deals and continuous contact. Since we can't make trade deals yet this is our only option to improve relations besides making bribes.
The AI generally does not take advantage of ROP deals unless the human player has done so. As there is little to no settleable territory inside our lands there should not be much foreign traffic. Settler groups can be herded out of our territory with groups of 3 units if this becomes necessary.
Daaraa
King
For some reason I thought this was funny.
I've always enjoyed herding chinese
Back on topic I think this was a great idea. I just hope the ROPS have the desired effect. The attitudes did not seem to change much.
Falcon02
General
Well, now we have a ROP and the Chinese are still furious at us, I doubt they will keep their promises, esp. with such an attitude. I feel the ROP was a mistake, but only time will tell, maybe Shaitan is right and they won't attack, but I doubt it.
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
I believe that if we go with the harbour plan and trade luxuries with the Chinese, they will be much less likely to attack.
Falcon02
General
Now I believe that might work, Shaitan, your impressions?
Shaitan
der Besucher
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Originally posted by punkbass2000
I believe that if we go with the harbour plan and trade luxuries with the Chinese, they will be much less likely to attack.
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Originally posted by punkbass2000
I believe that if we go with the harbour plan and trade luxuries with the Chinese, they will be much less likely to attack.
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I concur. I've already agreed to put the Foreign Affairs plan on hold for a chat turn if Trade can guarantee a deal with China this turn.
Shaitan
der Besucher
The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll to determine the extent of Chat Room Representatives' powers.
Shaitan
der Besucher
The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll to determine if we will implement Justus' Harbor Plan.
Shaitan
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Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
I am strongly against ROPs w/ India and the Zulu. Although, I agree with the ROP with the Iroquois Nation. During a war with China, they could become powerful allies.
Shaitan
der Besucher
Noted. The primary reason for the ROPs is to improve relations with the other civilizations. India and the Zulu are not our neighbors so pose negligible danger. India is one of the only two civs in the world who like us - we want to keep it that way. The Zulu hate us - we want to change that. When we have free trade with these civs we will be able to pick and choose the ROPs more discriminately (as we get trade deals we can expire the ROPs that we don't want to keep).
An ROP is not being signed with the Aztecs as several people specifically objected to that ROP for specific reasons so I'm definitely influenceable (is that a real word?) despite my very strong desire to get these ROPs in place. Why don't you want an ROP with India and the Zulu?
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
Ghandi scares me and I don't like Impies, they kill my tanks. 
Zur
Freaky lozur with spikes
I agree. It is premature to sign ROP with India until their intentions are made clear or we have sufficient defence in the south-east. Zulu could ferry troops over to Heliopolis. Iroquois probably have a predominantly defensive military since they have no iron and 1 horse connected to a single city, Akwesasne.
Shaitan
der Besucher
Originally posted by Plexus
Ghandi scares me and I don't like Impies, they kill my tanks.
I'll keep an eye on the responses in case more people voice against the ROPs but the plan has overall favor at this time.
Falcon02
General
I've already protested the ROP's. I feel ROP's aren't to Improve relations, as we've seen with China, it hasn't helped much. I feel that it has just made us a more vunerable target. India I wouldn't mind, but anyone who's annoyed or Furious should stay off our ROP list, in my opinion.
The Trade Department is pleased to announce a promising preliminary trade oppurtunity. We can trade our ivory to the Greeks now for a WM, 7 GPT, and 19 gold up front. Rome and the Aztecs are willing to give 3 and 2 GPT respectively, with an additional 30 gold up front. Others are either only willing to give gold up front (90 from China, I believe), or just WMs.
There is an active trade route:
Rome <--> India
India <--> Greece
Greece <--> Aztecs
I know the Aztecs have been a pain for us, so trading with the Greeks will deny atleast 7 GPT and 19 up front from going into Aztec treasuries.
Note: This is only preliminary, but a very promising option.
There is an active trade route:
Rome <--> India
India <--> Greece
Greece <--> Aztecs
I know the Aztecs have been a pain for us, so trading with the Greeks will deny atleast 7 GPT and 19 up front from going into Aztec treasuries.
Note: This is only preliminary, but a very promising option.
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