Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by OverWind, Oct 7, 2011.
Or one could come up this month and a double in December
Sure, but I mean we're not heard any news about anything lately. I don't think 2kgreg has posted anywhere in a while.
He was quite silent before Korea as well.
(Although the forums were buzzing, though).
I am sure that something new will come out in a few weeks or so
I think it will be sometime in November.
Yeah, that's what I think too. Maybe even December to be close to Christmas.
I don't think he is limiting anything. Plus he never said Firaxis can't or won't make a real expansion
Semantically you're right, anything you download for the game is Downloadable Content.
But that is not what he means. Compare the DLC for Civ5 with the expansions for Civ4. All the DLC combined for Civ5 would not add as much as BTS did.
anyway, i hope they are working on a traditional expansion pack, and would include all the DLC released so far in it (since i haven't bought them yet)
That'd be bad business. If I was holding the thick end of the stick I'd release a complete DLC compilation along with the expansion pack. 50% off of the DLC pack if you buy the expansion pack.
Sure hope they don't read this
I asked 2KGames on Twitter today:
To which they answered:
Which in my interpretation is more like "maybe there is something in the works, but we can't tell you yet".
I might be optimistic, but it at least isn't a straight denial or something like that.
Could even be only one version that includes all the DLC. The DLC would be a "free bonus", perhaps with a fun story about how the expansion couldn't be balanced\programmed correctly unless all the DLC was in there (up to that point). I kind of doubt they'd be that harsh to DLC buyers (i.e. biggest supporters) though, at least not from day 1.
if the already released DLC is not included, it would be hard to fill the feature list, unless they are going to give us another 10 civs on top of religon, espianage and a new era or whatever
i dont know why the DLC buyers are going to feel "ripped off" if an Xpac is released with included civs, if only u had held off 18 months from getting the extra content, u could have saved your cup of coffee
Of course there are two reasons for them not to included already released civs:
The first is that they'll cut into the GOTY-sale, as someone can buy vanilla Civ5 and the Xpac and be done with it.
The second is that they'll cut into future DLC-sales, as people (not all, but definitely some) will forego buying DLC and will wait for the next Xpac instead.
This, of course, doesn't mean they can include other civs in the Xpac.
The first several patches almost completely changed the game, certainly much more so than something as simple as changing CS behavior or adding religion. It has been quiet for a while, however, so it makes sense that they're planning something big. My bet is that the "expansion pack" is just a very large dlc with 5 or 6 civs + major CS overhaul + lots of scenarios + some added content (ie, overpowered junk that makes the game easier again). And I'll buy it just like everybody else...
Can they make an expansion pack available for download? Yes, they can.
Will they? No, they won't.
I should clarify. Not, no they won't release an expansion via download but rather, they won't release an expansion, period.
If they were to make a game-changing expansion, all subsequent DLCs would either
A) be built only with requirements that are unchanged by the expansion (i.e., you don't need the expansion to use the DLC; it uses nothing added or changed by the expansion) or
B) have to be released twice with Version 1 for those without the expansion and Version 2 for those with the expansion.
Come to think of it, all prior DLCs would also have to be modded to accommodate the expansion's changes as well, else they'd go boom whenever someone buys 'em.
Why wouldn't any release from now on solely be downloaded, regardless if it's a main game, add-ons or expansions? But it is semantic, you can call it a DLC or just simply a downloaded release. Maybe there is already a mindset that DLC can't be more than $9.99? I don't think Steam really cares what it is called. Purchasing a $49.99 game, $29.99 expansion pack or a $9.99 DLC is all exactly the same thing.
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