The evolution of flags in your country.

Here's the flag that Western Canadian Seperatists (British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan) would use if they succeed in gaining independence. I know it doesn't have much to do with the evolution of the Canadian flag, but it looks nice. :)
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Acording to legend, this flag fell from the sky during a medieval battle between Denmark and Estonia. It gave us victory, and has been our flag ever since. I think it's the oldest national flag still in use.
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Your nation's flag is hosted by tripod, eh?;)
 
What is trippod?

I wrote "Dannebrog" (Danish name for our flag) on google and it came up with this.
What exactly are you trying to say?
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The picture that you used probably came from a tripod webpage. Your flag won't show, because tripod.com won't let you.
Is this what you were looking for?
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:rotfl: This is great! He doesn't see the image we see, Ossric!:lol:

I think what he needs is a screenshot!:cool:

Edit: Now it works, storealex.:)
 
The German coulors are black, red and gold. These coulors have their origin in the uniforms of the Lützowsches Freicorps. This militia unit of volunteers fought in the liberation wars against Napoleon. They wore black uniforms with red inlay and golden buttons. Later the students and the Paulskirchen constitution wanted this as flag. When Bismarck finally unified Germany his king and now emperor didn´t want to take that colours. So it was now black, white and red. Black and white were the colours of Prussia while white and red were the coulours of the Hanse. In 1919 the coulor changed, but the old flag remained as optional flag. The Nazis changed that until 1949 when the old flag was retaken as flag. However in sports the German sportsmen in some disciplines still wear the old coulours of 1871. And the soccer player still have the Prussian colours.

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France :

Here are several French flags I've found.

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~800 AD : Charlemagne's Oriflamme banner. (shared with Germany).



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~1100 AD : "Azur semé de lys d'Or". The website says it was already the Philippe II's Royal flag, however, I've also heard somwhere it's been imported from Florence by the Medicis family.



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~1365 AD : Modified by Charles V to honour the Holy Trinity.



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~1638 AD : Modified by Louis XIII. The White is then the Royal Colour.



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~1750 AD : Royal Coat of Arms. It doesn't replace the last one, it's the symbol of the King.



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1794 AD - Today : The flag of the French Democracy, adopted at the real birth of France.



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Future ? The European Union's flag - As a member of it.
 
If you count the Vichy regime, then this was the national flag of Vichy France. It was never recognized by an Allied nation and the Free French eventually punished all collaborators.

1940-1945
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By the way, I prefer the non-circle 51 star US flag. The stars have been in an array for so long, lets keep it that way. Possible 51st state? Puerto Rico?
 
Originally posted by RegentMan
If you count the Vichy regime, then this was the national flag of Vichy France. It was never recognized by an Allied nation and the Free French eventually punished all collaborators.

1940-1945
Well I'm sorry RegentMan but I can't see your flag. However, I'm sorry to desappoint you but the French flag hasn't changed during the occupation. You have certainly posted Philippe Pétain's standard, but it had never been the flag of the country, it had never represented anything else than Pétain.

If you don't believe me because as a French I'm a corrupted liar, here's a good anglo-saxon website which is telling it better than me : Flags of the World

The same could be said about the so-called Free France's flag with the Cross of Lorraine on it. It was De Gaulle's Flag, but the French flag remained the tricolore flag. Of course, as you've been educated in US schools, it's not your fault if you're an ignorant being convinced to know everything. Here's a picture of De Gaulle's flag :

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So no, I'm sorry but there's no flag missing in my list. Or if it's the case, it's certainly not after 1794. Another important information for people who obviously don't know about what they are talking about... Vichy has fallen in 1944, not in 1945.
 
Originally posted by Marla_Singer
So no, I'm sorry but there's no flag missing in my list. Or if it's the case, it's certainly not after 1794. Another important information for people who obviously don't know about what they are talking about... Vichy has fallen in 1944, not in 1945.
I wasn't trying to prove that you were missing a flag. I just wanted to show Vichy France's flag for those who were curious (apparently you don't recognize the regime). And it's true Vichy itself fell in 1944, but Petain and company fled to Germany. I consider the end of Vichy France when the country it took refuge in surrendered.
 
Originally posted by RegentMan
I wasn't trying to prove that you were missing a flag. I just wanted to show Vichy France's flag for those who were curious (apparently you don't recognize the regime). And it's true Vichy itself fell in 1944, but Petain and company fled to Germany. I consider the end of Vichy France when the country it took refuge in surrendered.
You persist in the mistake. The flag hasn't changed during the occupation. It's not my fault ! The only flag considered as representing Vichy is the standard of Philippe Pétain, however, it's not a national flag, it's the standard of one guy. Do you understand the difference ? It was explained pretty clearly on the website.

If you want a comparison, this is the United Kingdom's flag :

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And this is the standard of HM The Queen :

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By the way, would you say Saddam's regime has holded untill December 2003 because we had to wait then to catch him ? What are those kind of stupid considerations you have ?
 
Wow. All respect I had for you is out the window now. I obviously don't have near the knowledge about France and her history that you do. I'm sorry if I got the national flag and the standard of one man messed up. Thanks for assuming that I did this just because you think I'm a brainwashed anti-French American. I'll leave this thread as someone has already posted the flag of my country. Will someone else please continue the topic?
 
Originally posted by Rolo Master
The last flag (1910-) that have red (to represent the blood of our soldiers), the green (of hope) and the national coat of arms.

The complete description:

The five blue shields represents the five moorish kings defeated by the first King of Portugal at the Battle of Ourique .
The dots inside the blue shields represent the five wounds of Christ when crucified. Counting the dots and doubling those five in the center, there are thirty dots that represents the coins Judas received for having betrayed Christ.

The seven castles represents the fortified cities Dom Afonso Henriques conquered from the moors.

The globe represents the world discovered by the Portuguese navigators in the fifteen and sixteenth centuries (armilliary sphere *).

The green strip is meant to simbolise the hope in the future and the red the blood of the nation’s heroes.


*The armilliary sphere

The armilary sphere is a main element in portuguese heraldry, being incorporated in the modern flag and in a number of historical flags of both Portugal and Brazil.

It was an astronomical and navigation instrument made of wood or metal rings ("armilas") interconnected around a central axe to form parallels, meridians and the ecliptic, allowing to calculate one's position on the earth surface by examining the stars.

It is usualy depicted in heraldry in simplified form, with only one meridian (viewed in a 180 deg. position, as a circle), and only three parallel circles, the equator and the tropics. The ecliptic (sometimes bearing four to six zodiacal signs on it), in descending position on the modern flag's obverse, is usually wider than the other circles. The central axe is also visible, sometimes overlapping the meridian (and in that case we could consider it to be a 0 degrees meridian, viewed as a vertical line...). Anyway, the parallel circles overlap the meridians, and the ecliptic overlaps them all.

Older depictions show usually the instrument's "feet", a rotative "stool", as in a modern classroom globuses, and sometimes a smaller globe in the center or on the North Pole.

The modern version consists of the sphere only, and all the elements are samewhat wider and bearing detailed edges. The width difference between the ecliptic and the other rings is much smaller.
 
Originally posted by RegentMan
Wow. All respect I had for you is out the window now. I obviously don't have near the knowledge about France and her history that you do. I'm sorry if I got the national flag and the standard of one man messed up. Thanks for assuming that I did this just because you think I'm a brainwashed anti-French American. I'll leave this thread as someone has already posted the flag of my country. Will someone else please continue the topic?
RegentMan, I know you didn't expect to do something wrong with that story. However, when we read your first post, it seems you're almost scolding Marla because she was supposed to have hidden from the face of the world 4 years in French History.

Her answer was certainly too agressive, but it was technically true. According to her source which has no reason to not be believed, the French flag didn't change during the occupation.

At the moment, I work with a French guy from Le Havre in Normandy. He's not a lousy chauvinist and I've made several jokes about Vichy France where I was saying that WW2 had revealed what France was really about. Usually, he's even harsher than me about France, but obviously even him, didn't appreciate the joke. He told me France was simply an occupied country during the war, and that if a truth about French people had been revealed then, it wasn't in 1940, it was in 1944 during the liberation, when the whole French people get down in the streets to celebrate the end of that crap with our GI's. Frankly, I didn't know what to answer. I've thought about it during a long time afterwards, and today I think his appreciation is more accurate than mine used to be.
 
My two cents... It's a bit off topic, but...
It's true that many French people collaborated with Vichy. It's true some of them took part in the deportation of jews.

What WW2 has revealed, is that a country which is overconfident in his superiority, and stick to outdated standard, as France did in 1940: with the "aura" of being THE victor of WWI (I don't say it's true, just that is was seen that way), and so the feeling to be among the strongest army in the world, can be very "disappointed" when the opponent doesn't play by the rules and has developped new tactics. The French army completly collapsed in a few weeks, and so did all the armies that faced the German Blitzkrieg. England was saved only by the channel at that time.

The support for Vichy was not so great. The French continue to fight from their colonies. French troops (although small in size) were among the first to land on the Beaches of Normandy, and the French 2nd Armored Division often spearheaded the Allied forces during the liberation of France.

Beside, a lot of French partisans fought the occupation with the means they had. In 1944, the Interior French Forces were estimated to about 200 000 peoples, that sabotaged German convoy and harrass German forces, denying the Normandy front some vital reinforcement.

Now, back to the topic. There is a small omission in the list of flags for France. During the Napoleonic wars, two Flags were used. The standard one, with three vertical bars and another with a white diamond in the center, with two corners red and two others blue. I'll try to find a picture. This flag was used mainly by the Imperial army, and I'm not sure if it was used in other occasion, but given the importance of Napoleon's army, it's worth noting.
 
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