The future of Civ 2?

[SideshowBob]

I'm not going to question the fact that Civ 2 is a game that should stand the test of time (the pun was intended - sorry)

What I'm wondering is do you, or someone you know have the skills to come up with patches or simulators for older systems so that one could play Civ 2 in let's say 2060?

Or might they remake the game so that it would work on newer computers. Often, I find it, you have to give up a game much too soon simply because computers develop and and you can keep your old ones or they break down or whatever.

Would rereleasing old games compatible with newer systems be a part-solution to cutting down on piracy and cracking games?

How long do you think you'll be able to play Civ, and how long would you like to? I find there is no time, when you are too old for a game unles you stop being entertained by it.

 

[yaroslav]

How long would I like to do? I can't think of being tired of Civ2... And I'm playing it right from 1995.

How long do I think I'll be able to play Civ2? Well, Civ2 is a Windows game. Some DOS games have problems to be runned in Windows machines (particulary in the last versions of Windows) but I think that Civ2, a windows game, will survive some major revisions of windows without too much problems (or at least I hope so). If not, emulators will be the solution because I don't believe that Atari (who owns the civ2 rights IIRC) will release a compatibilty patch... for a 1995 game.

 

[Andrew Livings]

I believe there is also a LINUX version of civ2 which we could always migrate to.

Actually I have found on a certain site (which I will not name for fear of getting banned) where I found both Civilization and Colonization for Windows as "abandoned" software. So obviously at some point the publishers recoded both games from DOS to Windows based to account for the rise of Windows.

There was also a discussion once in which a surprising number of people admitted keeping older machines running just to play these older games, and I count myself among them. A lot of my games collection dates from the late 1990's

 

[Cedric Greene]

Originally posted by Andrew Livings
Actually I have found on a certain site (which I will not name for fear of getting banned) where I found both Civilization and Colonization for Windows as "abandoned" software. So obviously at some point the publishers recoded both games from DOS to Windows based to account for the rise of Windows.

Actually the Windows versions were released by MicroProse, not some coder.

 

[blackthorn]

Civ will find a way.
Ive been playing civ a long time (since the early days)...
and from what Ive seen the short time Ive been into theCFC,
Is there are plenty of people out there who are still discovering
civII. Including me.So I know that I will do what it takes to keep
playing CivII as long as the miracle lasts.


Addict since 1995


Long Live CIV2!!!!

 

[SideshowBob]

This sounds all very well, but how long do you think that the worlds computer community will tolerate Windows's hegemony of operating systems?

Anyhow since I feel as if I could never get bored of Civ 2 I wonder why some companies, the ones who manage to make a superhit game - or many of them, don't use that goldmine to make more money on them when the games don't want to run any longer on new systems. Just the way litterary classics still sell and are read I believe that people would be willing to pay just to keep playing that old nostalgic favourite game.

I'm unfortunately better at killing computers than keeping them alive so that I could enjoy old games on them, and besides I wouldn't have space for those high age cuties...

 

[funxus]

Many old movies (that have become classics) are given out again, but now on DVD, to not lose money on the fact that VHS is dying. Hopefully someone (with the rights) will do the same with classic games once their original mediums (read OS:s) are dying.

 

[webhsu]

just out of pure curiosity.
do you guys ever play civ 3?
what is the reason for continuing civ2?

 

[scloopy]

Originally posted by webhsu
just out of pure curiosity.
do you guys ever play civ 3?
what is the reason for continuing civ2?

I am new to both games, but find that even if the graphics are a lot more interesting in III still II seems to be a better game. Even if it does drive me nuts.

 

[funxus]

Originally posted by webhsu
just out of pure curiosity.
do you guys ever play civ 3?
what is the reason for continuing civ2?

There have been several threads abou this, and I think that the most common reasons are that the computer isn't good enough to run III, some think that, although diplomacy is better and they like the culture idea, the game has lost its touch and they lose interest after a few games (or even half a game). I'm sure there are many more reasons, but the second reason is why I stick to civ2.

 

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by funxus
Many old movies (that have become classics) are given out again, but now on DVD, to not lose money on the fact that VHS is dying. Hopefully someone (with the rights) will do the same with classic games once their original mediums (read OS:s) are dying.

Hopefully... but it's easier to record a old movie in a DVD that to migrate games from one OS to another.

I still think that emulators are going to be our best option.

 

[Marcus Cato]

I agree with yaroslav; between computers continueing to get faster and the fact that microslop has such a stranglehold on business (and therefore market share) I'll bet there will be microslop emulators with offered with virtually any new os. I've even heard that you can get microslop os as firmware on a board.

I reckon I'll keep playing Civ II until someone comes up with a version (or another game) which makes the darned housekeeping less of a chore; I swear, by the end of the game, I'm doing more than 85% logistics and housekeeping and only 15% (or less) battling. What a drag!

 

[colinh]

There's a large community of people working on emulators for computers from the 1960s and 1970s that many people have never heard of (for example, the PDP-8, PDP-10, and PDP-11), and many people run lots of old software on these emulated systems. And of course there's a much larger set of people who work on or play with emulators for newer home computers, arcade machines, and game consoles. I think it's safe to say that there will eventually be a big emulation community for Windows machines and software for a long, long time.

 

[Andu Indorin]

Well, I know that I could design a worthy successor to Civ 2, one that would put Civ 3 to complete shame.

 

[blackthorn]

we eagerly await a better more improved version.

 

[The Person]

The day I'm no longer able to play Civ2 will be a sad day.

 

[Duke Togo]

Multiplayer is better in Civ2.

 

[ChildOfWar]

The day when civ 2 can't be played anymore I'll curse that god damn day..I just hope we can continue with civ2. But luckily legends don't ever die, they will br always remembered. I just can't imagine life without civilization, I just ove it
Peace!

 

[M37]

Originally posted by Andrew Livings
I believe there is also a LINUX version of civ2 which we could always migrate to.

There was also a discussion once in which a surprising number of people admitted keeping older machines running just to play these older games, and I count myself among them. A lot of my games collection dates from the late 1990's

Ok so I'm not crazy keeping my old P150 for playing civ2, X-com, ect...

 

[Colincivmaster]

If i ever have to stop playing civ i dont know what ill do