Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
got it
The Gang of Four - FRFR Redux
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Gengis Khan
Deity
Didn't move him a square.
From checking out the starting location I saw that the river started in the mountain close to there, I would have liked to move him & the settler up 1 tile but that wouldn't have it be a coastal city(no river mouth in view).
After thinking about it for a minute I figured that the chance of me finding another spot with 4 BGs(not counting the 1 I settled on), on a coast, with river access, and only 3 coastal tiles was slim to none. And even if I did, it would waste quite a few turns exploring & then getting my settler where I wanted him, then a few more to get the worker back to the city. So I just settled & joined him right away, hence the starting warrior vs curragh for exploration.
From checking out the starting location I saw that the river started in the mountain close to there, I would have liked to move him & the settler up 1 tile but that wouldn't have it be a coastal city(no river mouth in view).
After thinking about it for a minute I figured that the chance of me finding another spot with 4 BGs(not counting the 1 I settled on), on a coast, with river access, and only 3 coastal tiles was slim to none. And even if I did, it would waste quite a few turns exploring & then getting my settler where I wanted him, then a few more to get the worker back to the city. So I just settled & joined him right away, hence the starting warrior vs curragh for exploration.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I can't argue with that reasoning. All very sound. I was curious how you handled it. Probably gave you more productivity in the city earlier.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Some screen shots
Gengis Khan
Deity
Thanks for the screenshots!
At least we can build outposts, I'm absolutly in love with the new outposts in Conquests(well it's new to me, I never got PTW. Leave me alone!!)
Any suggestions for our next city?? I was thinking the hill 4 tiles to the east(between the BG, cow & tobacy. Also on a coast). I definatly don't like the look of all that desert to the south, hopefully there's some nice land to the north, but with the map position I'm guessing we'll hit tundra pretty soon.
Also how's our layout gonna go? I'd vote for packing them in pretty thick. We'll need all the cities we can get for unit support cost, especially if the lands as crappy to the south as it appears to be.
Any long term ideas on research? I'd vote for either pursing Lit or Map Making after Alphabet. Since we got BW so quickly I'm almost positive we can snag the Colossus if we start on it within 10 turns or so(this is Regent after all
).
Min research on Lit with some shady trading to keep people away from Writing or Lit and we might luck out & be able to get the Great Library as well. That would be a huge start for us.
Map making on the other hand will allow us harbors to connect our cities, and almost as importantly we can upgrade our carraghs to caravels & throw some warriors into them to go goody hut farming on the islands. The AI in Conquest doesn't seem to go after goody huts as much as they did in vanilla so we can try to use that to our advantage, and once again do to it being Regent we'd likely see pretty good results.
A tough decision for sure.
At least we can build outposts, I'm absolutly in love with the new outposts in Conquests(well it's new to me, I never got PTW. Leave me alone!!)
Any suggestions for our next city?? I was thinking the hill 4 tiles to the east(between the BG, cow & tobacy. Also on a coast). I definatly don't like the look of all that desert to the south, hopefully there's some nice land to the north, but with the map position I'm guessing we'll hit tundra pretty soon.
Also how's our layout gonna go? I'd vote for packing them in pretty thick. We'll need all the cities we can get for unit support cost, especially if the lands as crappy to the south as it appears to be.
Any long term ideas on research? I'd vote for either pursing Lit or Map Making after Alphabet. Since we got BW so quickly I'm almost positive we can snag the Colossus if we start on it within 10 turns or so(this is Regent after all
). Min research on Lit with some shady trading to keep people away from Writing or Lit and we might luck out & be able to get the Great Library as well. That would be a huge start for us.
Map making on the other hand will allow us harbors to connect our cities, and almost as importantly we can upgrade our carraghs to caravels & throw some warriors into them to go goody hut farming on the islands. The AI in Conquest doesn't seem to go after goody huts as much as they did in vanilla so we can try to use that to our advantage, and once again do to it being Regent we'd likely see pretty good results.
A tough decision for sure.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I think map-making (harbors, lighthouse, sea tile saftey, extra movement) is a must for us in this game. The harbors will be our roads.
I saw that hill and I started hoping it might hold iron some day. That would be a very good place for city #2. Plus being on the on the other coast will save some turns of curragh driving.
Hopefully we can meet somone that has IW soon. We will need to locate all resources on the coast as soon as possible.
I think we should build our cities as close as possible on the coast.
I saw that hill and I started hoping it might hold iron some day. That would be a very good place for city #2. Plus being on the on the other coast will save some turns of curragh driving.
Hopefully we can meet somone that has IW soon. We will need to locate all resources on the coast as soon as possible.
I think we should build our cities as close as possible on the coast.
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Dont mind the turn numvbers 
1. grow to 4; I will finsih the curragh
2. Discover new civ border in the south. Change production to granary? We dont have pottery. The warrior will go north, the new curragh goes south and then west.
3. no contact yet It is on our island, make another warrior thus.
4. Change to another curragh, we have one unknown direction left Kinda expensive .
5. Move curraghs
6. Move curraghs
7. change to settler
8. moving!
9. moving!
10. growth to 5, One scientist (3 beakers). Writing in 4, breakeben, only 2 gold, settker in 3.
11. moving
12. moving
13. . Lost track of counting
Da 2430 BC save
1. grow to 4; I will finsih the curragh
2. Discover new civ border in the south. Change production to granary? We dont have pottery. The warrior will go north, the new curragh goes south and then west.
3. no contact yet It is on our island, make another warrior thus.
4. Change to another curragh, we have one unknown direction left Kinda expensive .
5. Move curraghs
6. Move curraghs
7. change to settler
8. moving!
9. moving!
10. growth to 5, One scientist (3 beakers). Writing in 4, breakeben, only 2 gold, settker in 3.
11. moving
12. moving
13. . Lost track of counting
Da 2430 BC save
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I've got it. I'll try to post a screen shot for the team.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Good job exploring Gents.
Here's a early dot map proposal.
I think I'm going to walk our settler across to Red Dot and try and start a crude settler factory. It should be interesting to see how quickly we can crank out some settlers.
[Edit - Hey, that's number 1000 for me
]
Here's a early dot map proposal.
I think I'm going to walk our settler across to Red Dot and try and start a crude settler factory. It should be interesting to see how quickly we can crank out some settlers.
[Edit - Hey, that's number 1000 for me
]
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Only 1000 
....
Got 4000 this week. Shame on me
.
....Got 4000 this week. Shame on me
.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Question for the team. We have writing due in 3 turns. What should we research next. Given our restrictions, we probably need to know iron working and the wheel very soon. Thoughts?
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight - 2430 AD Some units havent been moved yet. Start the settler towards red dot, and bring a warrior with him.
Nothing on the diplo front.
IBT A barb warrior is heading towards our city.
1.2390 AD We have a pink boarder Portugal. Henry has a crooked mustache. Hes cautious and hes up two techs on us: pottery and mysticism. Hes got 20G and doesnt want to talk about selling either tech. Being a seafaring civ, theyve probably met someone else.
2. 2350 AD Exploring. Knock science down to 10% with writing due next turn.
We are just kicking butt on shield production in our capitol a whopping 4 spt.
IBT That barb warrior fortifies on the gems. Thats an interesting change in C3C. Writing comes in. Let me see what I can trade before committing myself. Maybe I should just be committed.
3. 2310 AD I think we need to get both techs from Henry. I dont have enough cash (3G) So I go to Mao and sell CB for 10G. Still not enough. I go to the X-man and sell him writing for 14G. Yes that is probably a
move. Henry will now give us Mysticism & Pottery for Writing, 19G & 1gpt.
There are two horse tiles near the coast. One across the water from our capitol to the west and one down towards the Chinese. I start on Mapmaking on min science. The best we could do was 48 turns, so well settle for 50.
Hopefully we can start making some money since I just put us in debt. Our budget is at break even right now.
4. 2270 BC Found Bergen on red dot. Start a granary. Were now running a surplus of 7 gpt. I check science. If we spend all our cash, we can get MM in 36 turns. I figure well need the money, so I keep it at 10%.
IBT The barb warrior comes down from the mountain. The people build a nice lawn for our cave.
5. 2230 BC We have an orange boarder. The Dutch.. thats two other seafaring civs.
William is cautious, stupid (no techs) and poor (10G). Were up Masonry, Wheel, and Writing.
6. 2190 BC - The X-man has IW. We trade him Wheel and Pottery for it. Good news, theres an iron hill on the southern part of our continent. Bad news is that it is right next to the Chinese.
I turn around and sell IW to Henry for Mysticism & 12G. So for our two first tier techs we get two second tier techs and 12G. Im not feeling so bad about my 1gpt deal earlier. Without it I couldnt have executed this last round of trades. So were either ahead every one but the Portuguese and were even with them.
IBT Another bard approaches our capitol.
7. 2150 BC Exploring.
8. 2110 BC More of the same.
9. 2070 BC Move a warrior into Chinese lands.
IBT Mao asks us to leave. Yeah, sure you bet.
10. 2030 BC Spot an Egyptian settler . All by his lonesome.
Cleo is polite, has 2 wines, is down six techs and has a whopping 12G.
After Action Report - Checking the space race. The only folks we havent met yet are the Babylonians and the Indians. They are probably due east of us. I have a vessel on our northeast coast ready to head in that direction. There have been easy crossings so far. I expect youll find more. I havent had to suicide once.
Why dont the next two players, gorm and mad-bax, both play 11 turns. That will get us to a nice round number for turnovers I think.
Right now, the cities arent much to manage, and the exploring is the only fun part. Well, I guess the trading has been fun. I think were going to lose out on the Colossus (only 4 spt stinks), but hopefully well have map making and we can switch to the lighthouse.
>> SAVE - 2030 BC <<
Nothing on the diplo front.
IBT A barb warrior is heading towards our city.
1.2390 AD We have a pink boarder Portugal. Henry has a crooked mustache. Hes cautious and hes up two techs on us: pottery and mysticism. Hes got 20G and doesnt want to talk about selling either tech. Being a seafaring civ, theyve probably met someone else.
2. 2350 AD Exploring. Knock science down to 10% with writing due next turn.
We are just kicking butt on shield production in our capitol a whopping 4 spt.
IBT That barb warrior fortifies on the gems. Thats an interesting change in C3C. Writing comes in. Let me see what I can trade before committing myself. Maybe I should just be committed.
3. 2310 AD I think we need to get both techs from Henry. I dont have enough cash (3G) So I go to Mao and sell CB for 10G. Still not enough. I go to the X-man and sell him writing for 14G. Yes that is probably a
move. Henry will now give us Mysticism & Pottery for Writing, 19G & 1gpt. There are two horse tiles near the coast. One across the water from our capitol to the west and one down towards the Chinese. I start on Mapmaking on min science. The best we could do was 48 turns, so well settle for 50.
Hopefully we can start making some money since I just put us in debt. Our budget is at break even right now.4. 2270 BC Found Bergen on red dot. Start a granary. Were now running a surplus of 7 gpt. I check science. If we spend all our cash, we can get MM in 36 turns. I figure well need the money, so I keep it at 10%.
IBT The barb warrior comes down from the mountain. The people build a nice lawn for our cave.
5. 2230 BC We have an orange boarder. The Dutch.. thats two other seafaring civs.
William is cautious, stupid (no techs) and poor (10G). Were up Masonry, Wheel, and Writing.6. 2190 BC - The X-man has IW. We trade him Wheel and Pottery for it. Good news, theres an iron hill on the southern part of our continent. Bad news is that it is right next to the Chinese.
I turn around and sell IW to Henry for Mysticism & 12G. So for our two first tier techs we get two second tier techs and 12G. Im not feeling so bad about my 1gpt deal earlier. Without it I couldnt have executed this last round of trades. So were either ahead every one but the Portuguese and were even with them.
IBT Another bard approaches our capitol.
7. 2150 BC Exploring.
8. 2110 BC More of the same.
9. 2070 BC Move a warrior into Chinese lands.
IBT Mao asks us to leave. Yeah, sure you bet.
10. 2030 BC Spot an Egyptian settler . All by his lonesome.
Cleo is polite, has 2 wines, is down six techs and has a whopping 12G. After Action Report - Checking the space race. The only folks we havent met yet are the Babylonians and the Indians. They are probably due east of us. I have a vessel on our northeast coast ready to head in that direction. There have been easy crossings so far. I expect youll find more. I havent had to suicide once.
Why dont the next two players, gorm and mad-bax, both play 11 turns. That will get us to a nice round number for turnovers I think.
Right now, the cities arent much to manage, and the exploring is the only fun part. Well, I guess the trading has been fun. I think were going to lose out on the Colossus (only 4 spt stinks), but hopefully well have map making and we can switch to the lighthouse.
>> SAVE - 2030 BC <<
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Here's a screen shot.
Note the horses across the water from our capitol.
Settling on the furs to the far northeast will grab a whale.
Note the horses across the water from our capitol.
Settling on the furs to the far northeast will grab a whale.
gormdragan
King
Got it.
gormdragan
King
Actually I would prefer to settle on the fur south of the purple circle. the gain in whale is not as good as the hills+wheat. Any comments?
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
I think we should settle on that hill later.
There might be iron!
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
We have IW. There isn't any iron around us. Only down by the Chinese.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Mad-bax,
Sorry to see you go. Looks like we're really a Gang of Four again.
Sorry to see you go. Looks like we're really a Gang of Four again.
Gengis Khan
Deity
I'm back, after a lovely 4 day trip to Murtle Beach and to Chapel Hill to watch the heels get slaughtered by Clemson(I demand a rematch!!). I'll be reading over the posts I missed shortly & posting my thoughts
