The Great DoC UHV v 1.11 challenge

[JiimBV]

Ooh, so it actually does work? The couple times I've attempted it I've failed and restarted, so I just assumed it was a worthless strategy. Controlling Greece from the get-go would be enormously helpful! I'll try it my next playthrough.

EDIT: Also, does anyone know how to check SVN revision?

 

[JiimBV]

Tibet, Monarch/Normal, 600 AD

Score: 6362
Victory Date: 1160 AD
SVN Revision: 666

Strategy:
Immediately sent my khampas off to conquer Pataliputra as usual, but switched my civics to Agrarianism and Warrior Code. I never had the need to whip, though Warrior Code was almost entirely useless and I switched out of it soon thereafter. Once I controlled Gron Kyer Me Tog, Delhi and Pagan, having stolen and built 4 workers in the process, I switched to Mercenaries and Scholasticism. The surplus gold from shrines is best used for two things: buying resources and buying khampas. After hurrying a couple extra khampas in Delhi, I conquered Lahore. UHV1 complete!

Following my conquests, it was time to buckle down. I continued what I had already been doing, micromanaging Gron Kyer Me Tog for maximal Great Prophets and building scary amounts of missionaries. I sent all of these to Europe except the last 4, converting all of France, Barcelona, Cordoba, Vienna, Athens and Frankfurt. 4 of them were swallowed up by Byzantium and Arabia when the simultaneously declared war on me! Luckily that didn't stop me from reaching UHV2. France was the main place to convert, and Paris tipped the scales.

The final UHV was a very short waiting game, just 8 Golden Age-boosted turns in which I built Borobudur in Rasa for kicks (finished just in time to be completely useless). It's really nice to win UHV before the Mughals spawn, since they are usually a pain in the butt.

 

[sebzilla]

Khmer, 600AD, Monarch, Normal, score 4792 in 1445.

Not a record, sadly, but I won without invading Palembang or otherwise straying from my historical area. I did capture Tumasik after Indonesia declared war on me, but I think it was all but irrelevant to my victory. It grows well enough but production is horrible so I couldn't get a single Monastery out of it. And it was size 12 when I won which was neither help nor hindrance really.

Instead, I founded Mandalay on the hill 2N of the Pagan Tea. This city can work the Rice and Gold as well as borrowing a few tiles from Pagan and Hanoi, which is enough to build a couple of Monasteries. It only grows to about 6, but Hanoi and Angkor can pick up the slack easily.

Basic strategy: Found Angkor and Hanoi. Angkor builds Settler for Mandalay while Elephants take Pagan. Buddhism spreads everywhere automatically, so build Buddhist Monasteries first in Pagan, Hanoi and Mandalay. Angkor builds the Hindu one, followed by three missionaries. Hanoi has time to squeeze in a Forge and Library before Philosophy is done and it's time for Wat Priah Prisnulok.

Tech path is Alphabet (for trading) - Philosophy (for Wat) - Aesthetics - Drama. After Drama you shut down and go full Culture. The Golden Age from the buildings and pop gave me just enough extra commerce to put me over the top in 1445.


So, not a new record, but a fun game and my first Khmer win. I feel most civs should be winnable while playing historically, and it makes me sad to have to push outside of that to win with some.

 

[ales_]

Yes. It won't appear in the OP.

 

[pippo84]

Greece 3000 BC
Monarch - Normal
SVN version 690

Points 24773

Korinthos on marble and Solona on Copper
Used the 3 Hoplites to conquer Egypt.
Discorvered Iron Working from hut (? it's that the name of barbarian village??)
Used it to train both Hoplites and Swordmen very important to attack Babylonian's special archers. Conquered Babylon and then Tyron (Phoenician). Dlecared war on Persia at turn 101/2 and conquered 4 cities (the one on copper and the 3 in the core area), then it collapsed. ----> Started the Golden Age.
Conquered Hierusalem, Sur and Ankyra from Indipendent.
Wait for Phylosophy discovery

---- Research path ----
Masonry - Priesthood - Aesthetic
Used Oracle to discover Litterature - Drama - Metal Casting (researched with a G.I.)
Traded all my researches with all Phoencian researches before declare it war. - Discovered Phylosophy on turn 136 (used a G.P. to discover Meditation).

---- Great Wonders ----
Solona:
Statue of Zeus ASAP to increase military units production speed (with Pagan Temple);
The Great Library (after first 2 goals)

Korinthos:
Ishtar Gate - Oracle - The Great Cothon (then Military Units)
The Temple of Artemis
The Colossus

Diospolis M. (Egypt)
3 Hoplites, 2 Swordmen -----> The Partheon - The Great Library - (The Pyramids)

Babylon
(The Great Sphynx)

Hierusalem
(The Temple of Salomon)

Roman Empire declares war on me 2 turns before I discoverd Phylosophy.
I had left some Hoplites and Horses both in Korinthos and in Solona to defend against Roman special troops.....

 

[Fresol]

Actually my first win on Emperor, well in the case of Mali, playing on Emperor does not make much of a difference though.

Spoiler :

I settled 3 cities in Mali, since the first 2 UHV goals were rather pressing. After completing them, I settled two more cities in South Africa.

I won Virtual Victory in 1680 AD, with a GMerchant still on his way to Mecca. In 1700 AD, the last turn of this game, I finished researching Banking. Market+Grocer were in every city.

Catholicism(and Orthodoxy) spreaded into my land at the start of the game so I got some VERY IMPORTANT hammers bonus from the start.

The University of Sankore was built in Osbogbo since it had "better" production, luckily the Moors didn't beat me to it this time.

I was trying to take some cities from the Moors(since they would finally collapse) but the Barbarian/Natives harassment kept my troops down, and I was tech-wise backward the whole game so there was no time for me to actually pull out an attack.

Accra produced the first two GMerchants and a GProphet, and Timbuktu produced the last GMerchant who was still on his mission when the game ended.

And the score was 3518. Bummer.

Edit: revision 697

 

[Ororo]

Hey guys, I'm back.

Vikings, Monarch, Normal, 3000 BC start, SVN revision 699

Finish date: 1130 AD
Score: 7461

Settled Goeteborg as my capital, a city 2N of the Horse as a helper city (it was set to built Galleys until the end) and a city on the northern tip of Ireland in order to gain access to Iceland.

Due to the fact that the Huskarl have been moved to Feudalism, no fancy strategy is need such as spawing a GM and bulbing the CS - you can immediately start producing units.

I have moved my starting army towards Italy and captured Rome and Messana. Rome is a great asset to have - it is a great production centre which can supply you with a lot of units for your future conquests and on top of that it counts as a European core.

England was my second target as it is by far the easiest one out of the western European civs. France was next, followed by Germany. I snatched a singler city from Cordoba in the meantime. Capturing and subsequently razing cities provides a ton of gold so i have reached the 3000 gold threshold by the time I was conquering Poland, Russia and what was left of Byzantium.

Constructive criticism: I think the UHV is extremely easy now that the Huskarls have been moved down to Feudalism. You can start producing them early and overwhelm the AIs with pure numbers (on top of the fact that a CR2 Huskarl attacking amphibiously against a Longbow fortified in a city actually has winning odds ) Nevertheless, I had fun while playing for this UHV so all things considered the UHV themselves do not require any significant change. See the shape of Europe for yourself

Spoiler :

 

[Fresol]

Amazing. But how's your stability? I mean all the city ruins...

 

[Ororo]

Not that great! It was at its bottom just before the 2/3 UHV Golden Age when it accounted for -53 IIRC... During the Golden Age it stayed at -11. Fortunately, I managed to acquire the necessary 3000 gold on the last turn of it.

 

[Fresol]

I wouldn't risk that kind of stability. But yeah... Why not? They are the Vikings after all.

 

[pippo84]

Italy 600 ad
SVN 699
Monarch / Normal
Points 3470 - Victory in 1930

Conquered Rome asap. Then Neaples and Beograd from indipendent (Byzantium has collapsed).

UHV1
Mercantilism - Patronage - Phylosophy.
Built the WW in Rome and Florence - for LEaning Tower i've used a G.E.

UHV2
Drama ---- built theatre in Rome,Venice,Florence and Opera House in Rome ---- turn 5 citizens to artist. Research path to Liberalism (after discovering Astronomy so I could choose Economics as free research). Wait Renaissance Era and used G.A. to upgrade cities culture.

UHV3
More difficult because you have to work with foreign core area.
Conquered Constantinople and Athen from Turks, then vassalize them and gift Athen (foreign core).
However, you need for Horses to defeat archers and crossbowmen, so after Astronomy send a Galleon to Somalia and founded Moqdisho. (Aksum by congress).
When ready, I move to northern africa, conquered Historical area from indipendents.
Decleared war on Moors and conquered Tunis, they collapsed.
At the beggining of '800 I Had 5 cities in Northen africa, Constantinople, Italy, Beograd, Vienna and Budin. 59% of meditterean.
I decided to conquer Cairo and vassalize Egypt to obtain more Med Lands.
Holy Roman respawn in '900 (unstable stability); I vassalized it
In 1920 Russia deleared war on Spain and becauseof defensive pacs, Europe was in war.... I conquered ex polish city south east from Krakov and then won UHV.

To obtain stability i choose to have a lot of defensive pact and civs helping in economy.

 

[pippo84]

missed to attach save file.

 

[Fresol]

Phoenicia UHV, E/N, Finish Turn 154(virtual 149), Score 20001, SVN 701

I started with 3 Huluganies and Greece only had 1 city with few defending units(1 Hulugani and 1 warrior). So I took it and razed it, if only to have a better site for my second city(my first city was Qart-Hadasht, in this way you would get an instant Palace).

You might want to call it cheese but I found it rather hard otherwise.

More cheese: I S/Led to get gold from huts.

So I settled Qart-Hadasht and Corinth, and later Saguntum on the silver. I researched Horseback Riding for African War Elephants, but I also needed Catapults. Therefore a library was built in Corinth, after the Oracle. After getting a GScientist I built Glassmaker there and finally got a GMerchant which provided me with 1800 gold.

Qart-Hadasht finished the Great Cothon. African War Elephants and Catapults were purchased in Qart-Hadasht and Saguntum and with 6 and 4 of them respectively I attacked Rome and took all 3 of their cities(of course I squatted Milan).

And after this I just built wealth in my cities and watch my GGeneral attached Trireme die helplessly to the Barbarian ones, there's just no way to stop those pirates.

In the end it was trash time and I just pressed End Turn until victory.

The barbarians were rampaging in Persia and took Parsa for a while. So I couldn't send my GMerchant there, luckily Taoism was founded in Per-Wadjet which was a fine substitute.

I'll upload the pics and saves later.

Spoiler :

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Cross-thread game submission for Mongolia on M/N. Finish date: 1445, Score: 9883.

Details after the jump:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13095516&postcount=11

 

[NKN]

How did India settle Indochina?

 

[Fresol]

I have no idea! I only saw it after the game. It's the first time I've seen it happen.

Edit: See this! At Byzantium spawn.

Spoiler :

They even have a Worker(instead of Indian Fast Worker)!

 

[pippo84]

Japan 3000BC
SVN 700
M/N
Finishing date 1960
Points 3620

It's very long to explain what i've done
UHV 1: Theatre and Opera House to create G.A. --- wait renaissance era and use 5 of them.
UHV 2: research military tech (riflemand, granadier and Infantry). used totalitarism, absolutism industrialism for Stability points.
conquered Korea and part of China, Thamils, the other part of China. Philippines, Indonesia. (enemies were: Indipendet Korea, China, Thai, Indipendent China, Portugal, Netherlands)... COnquered North Australia too for Uranium and Alluminium. Settled in Historical Oregon for Marble and Silver.
UHV 3: INTERNET!!! go straith to it and built it.


PS. my save is 2.136 mb and if i use winrar or 7zip it becomes 2.066
what have I to do to reduce it more than that???

 

[pippo84]

...from above

 

[ales_]

7z/rar/zip files can have a size of 10 MB.

 

[pippo84]

@Ales_

1) if I use right click - send to - "compress" folder, it creates a save zip file of 2.066 kb
2) if I use 7zip - add file - choose format (7zip / zip) it's of 2.110 kb
3) if i use WinRar - choose format (zip / rar) it's of 2.102 / 2.114 kb

can you sendme a PM to explain what I have to change in the program setup? Thanks a lot.....