The Great Flood

[Berzerker]

https://books.google.com/books?id=g...w patriarchs and berossus' kings list&f=false

That one deals with precessional numbers too, but Sitchin shows deeper connections between the patriarchs and Berossus' kings list here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=b...ere giants on the earth in those days&f=false

You'll need to scroll down to ch V "When Kingship was Brought Down From Heaven"

 

[Valka D'Ur]

https://books.google.com/books?id=gbjelOMYyN8C&pg=PT153&lpg=PT153&dq=10+hebrew+patriarchs+and+berossus'+kings+list&source=bl&ots=dxpnLNmv_3&sig=xtm0ApqP4_obiO20cFCQZvIu9EI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6geKB6qTZAhUDvlMKHZqACTI4ChDoAQhAMAc#v=onepage&q=10 hebrew patriarchs and berossus' kings list&f=false

That one deals with precessional numbers too, but Sitchin shows deeper connections between the patriarchs and Berossus' kings list here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=b1ooDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=there+were+giants+on+the+earth+in+those+days&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixi67e76TZAhUO7FMKHf31DUwQ6AEINTAD#v=onepage&q=there were giants on the earth in those days&f=false

You'll need to scroll down to ch V "When Kingship was Brought Down From Heaven"

I should have known better than to ask for anything that's actually reliable, rather than more Sitchin drivel.

 

[Berzerker]

Sitchin's the 2nd link... You can google this yourself and pick the links you prefer, Sitchin just offers insights tying Genesis to the Mesopotamians. Both links show some of the connections between the patriarchs and Berossus kings list. Sitchin aint drivel, if he was you'd be able to back that up.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Sitchin's the 2nd link... You can google this yourself and pick the links you prefer, Sitchin just offers insights tying Genesis to the Mesopotamians. Both links show some of the connections between the patriarchs and Berossus kings list. Sitchin aint drivel, if he was you'd be able to back that up.

We have had this conversation numerous times before.

I was curious to see if you'd come up with sources you haven't used a dozen times before, that are no more valid now than they were then.

Since you haven't come up with anything new, I don't see any point in continuing this line of the conversation.

 

[Berzerker]

I never posted the 1st link

or the 2nd...

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I never posted the 1st link

or the 2nd...

Unless there is someone else using your account, yes, you did. You posted two links here.

 

[timtofly]

Just because somebody says "this is all true" in a book doesn't mean it's all true without supporting evidence. And WTH is an "extra biblical scholar"? Some extras that happened to turn up? Ones that are more biblical than the others?

It's unfortunate that I don't remember the name of that documentary. I watched it in the '90s, probably on PBS, but it could have been on another channel.


Well, now that you've brought it up, how about a link? I'm curious.

So it is only true if it says so in a documentary? Just curious, because I never stated a judgment on the facts. I was just pointing them out.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

So it is only true if it says so in a documentary? Just curious, because I never stated a judgment on the facts. I was just pointing them out.

I held the view that they were made-up people before I saw the documentary in which biblical scholars' views were in agreement with mine. It was a rather interesting documentary, as it was pointed out that the purpose of the bible stories was to reinforce the morals that were being taught, but the people themselves never existed.

 

[Berzerker]

Unless there is someone else using your account, yes, you did. You posted two links here.

I was curious to see if you'd come up with sources you haven't used a dozen times before, that are no more valid now than they were then.

So you weren't curious about the subject, you were curious to see the links so you could ignore them? I never posted those links before that post, much less a dozen times... You didn't ask for a 'reliable' source and the 1st link wasn't from Sitchin. Spend 10-15 minutes reading them and post why you dont agree. Or not... Google the subject yourself, you dont need me to find links explaining the connections between the biblical patriarchs and Berossus' kings list and why the number 432,000 shows up in so many mythologies. Hell, google 432,000...

 

[Valka D'Ur]

So you weren't curious about the subject, you were curious to see the links so you could ignore them? I never posted those links before that post, much less a dozen times... You didn't ask for a 'reliable' source and the 1st link wasn't from Sitchin. Spend 10-15 minutes reading them and post why you dont agree. Or not... Google the subject yourself, you dont need me to find links explaining the connections between the biblical patriarchs and Berossus' kings list and why the number 432,000 shows up in so many mythologies. Hell, google 432,000...

I checked out the links, saw that the subject matter was more of that ridiculous Sitchin nonsense, and concluded that you are just interested in pushing more of the same stuff you've been pushing for years.

It should be obvious by now that if I ask for sources, I'm asking for reliable ones. But I appreciate your admitting (finally!) that your sources are not reliable.

 

[Berzerker]

I checked out the links, saw that the subject matter was more of that ridiculous Sitchin nonsense, and concluded that you are just interested in pushing more of the same stuff you've been pushing for years.

It should be obvious by now that if I ask for sources, I'm asking for reliable ones. But I appreciate your admitting (finally!) that your sources are not reliable.

I didn't say they were unreliable, you asked for a link and changed your request after I posted 2 links from different authors and you ignored them both because they're not 'reliable'.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I didn't say they were unreliable, you asked for a link and changed your request after I posted 2 links from different authors and you ignored them both because they're not 'reliable'.

Do you even read your own posts? You don't seem to remember what you actually said.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I checked out the links, saw that the subject matter was more of that ridiculous Sitchin nonsense, and concluded that you are just interested in pushing more of the same stuff you've been pushing for years.

It should be obvious by now that if I ask for sources, I'm asking for reliable ones. But I appreciate your admitting (finally!) that your sources are not reliable.

So you said "I don't believe you when you say x, give me a source," then when you were provided with a source that says x you determine "that source is unreliable, since they are saying x, which I have decreed to be nonsense." Then you complain about having been provided exactly what you asked for. Is that the gist here?

 

[Berzerker]

hehe, thank you

Do you even read your own posts? You don't seem to remember what you actually said.

This is what I said:

You didn't ask for a 'reliable' source

You took that as an admission I was linking unreliable sources when I was actually pointing out how you changed your request for a source to a source you've defined as reliable.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

hehe, thank you



This is what I said:

You didn't ask for a 'reliable' source

You took that as an admission I was linking unreliable sources when I was actually pointing out how you changed your request for a source to a source you've defined as reliable.

Stop being pedantic. I've made it clear to you over the years that we've been arguing about this stuff that I want reliable sources, rather than the ancient aliens and numerology nonsense you keep trotting out.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Stop being pedantic. I've made it clear to you over the years that we've been arguing about this stuff that I want reliable sources, rather than the ancient aliens and numerology nonsense you keep trotting out.

So...you keep doing the same thing and getting the same result? Ooooookay.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

So...you keep doing the same thing and getting the same result? Ooooookay.

Yeah, I should really stop expecting any kind of sense from Berzerker, regarding this particular topic. Silly me, I keep giving people chances to improve, and they keep disappointing me.

Kinda like when people "like" insulting posts - I should stop thinking they might improve their social skills and netiquette some day, when it's more and more evident that they won't.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Yeah, I should really stop expecting any kind of sense from Berzerker, regarding this particular topic. Silly me, I keep giving people chances to improve, and they keep disappointing me.

Kinda like when people "like" insulting posts - I should stop thinking they might improve their social skills and netiquette some day, when it's more and more evident that they won't.

Another option might be to stop believing in your own inherent superiority...or at least believing that others share that belief.

 

[timtofly]

I held the view that they were made-up people before I saw the documentary in which biblical scholars' views were in agreement with mine. It was a rather interesting documentary, as it was pointed out that the purpose of the bible stories was to reinforce the morals that were being taught, but the people themselves never existed.

You held that view, or made it up? You found people, even educated people, who backed up the view you made up, and hold. Would that be a fair assumption?

It is interesting that at certain times there are "made up stories" to teach a point, found in the Bible. It is clearly pointed out that was the attempt. Not all accounts are so marked, yet we are free to pick and choose, even if that was not the writer's intent?

That would be like claiming there was no Charles Dickens, because all his stories were made up, even if based on his life. Even when he pointed out that fact to others. He never existed because he failed to provide proof for thousands of years. No one would believe any factual writings of his, because the default view, was they were all written to make a point.

It would seem to me that the majority of the Bible was written about personal life experiences of actual people, but I guess any one can make up their own belief system on what they think the Bible's purpose is.

 

[Hrothbern]

If the Bible was not related to Christianity, but some recent archeological discovered document about our past, it would be described as one of the most interesting sources of our past ever.