The moon is made of green cheese...

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So I drove someone to the airport today, which led to some good contemplation time on the way back. This is what I arrived at.

If someone tells me that the moon is made of green cheese, and the earth is made of blue cheese, my response is most likely going to be "good to know." If they are someone I have any personal interest in or concern for, I may remind them that the earth appears to mostly be covered with pavement and dirt so if they want a good blue cheese they should consult the supermarket and get some that has been recovered from deep mining operations, probably in France or perhaps Wisconsin. Note that acknowledging their view does not require my agreement with their view.

I will not feel any compulsion to educate them, correct them, enlighten them, indoctrinate them...or even share my own view with them. I certainly will not feel compelled to incarcerate them, take their children into protective custody, or burn them at the stake, or even mock them.

If someone holding this somewhat unusual view takes the time to walk around my neighborhood offering to share their views, I will listen to them as much as my time permits, because I actually appreciate people who share their views. Perhaps this is why I spend a lot of time on forums. I will not be afraid that in sharing their views with me they are somehow going to wash my own views out of my head and flush them down my driveway, so I see no reason why I should be angered or offended that they would offer up their time in this way. I might tell them that my front yard is all either paved or sodded, so if they get a hankering for a blue cheese snack they need to look elsewhere. If they make a TV show about their views I will probably not watch unless it is hosted by a good comedian.

If someone were to post this unusual view on a forum, as the title of this thread implied that I was going to do, I may very well make a flippant remark like the mines in France thing, not out of concern but just to be flippant. If they were genuinely offended I would sincerely apologize, because if my efforts to be flippant are taken as hurtful mockery I will regret them in this case. In any event I would once again not feel any compulsion to educate them, correct them, enlighten them, indoctrinate them, mock them...or even share my own view with them.

Which brings me to what I was actually contemplating; my lifetime of conflict with wild eyed fanatics. That's my perhaps inappropriate shorthand for the people who do apparently feel those compulsions. We all know them. They are the ones who believe that most times when they share their views it has to start with the word "no" because it is in response to some view they do not share. Like the people who open this thread fully expecting to say "no the moon is made of mostly silicates you stupid twit!", who may have been headed off at the pass if they bothered to read all the way to this paragraph. Or more likely will post below. ;)
 
No!

The moon is made of Wensleydale. This is well known, and anyone who tells me otherwise is lying through their teeth. The bare-faced liars.


Link to video.
 
So, is this, like, a discussion that you're trying to have? Or have you mistaken the forum for a personal blog? Because you need to pose a question or something that people can actually respond to if you want to start a discussion.
 
So, is this, like, a discussion that you're trying to have? Or have you mistaken the forum for a personal blog? Because you need to pose a question or something that people can actually respond to if you want to start a discussion.

It's jerk bait. Or perhaps an explanation to people who find me difficult to get along with. Your choice.
 
So a guy starts trying to preach his unshakable, immutable beliefs to people who aren't interested, and he accuses others of being wild-eyed fanatics.

Interesting.
 
That's not quite how I read the OP, Mr Phrossack.

It would seem to be an argument against unshakeable, immutable beliefs in general.
 
That's not quite how I read the OP, Mr Phrossack.

It would seem to be an argument against unshakeable, immutable beliefs in general.

Good read as usual Mr B.

As a step further, I actually have no complaint against unshakable immutable beliefs. My wild eyed fanatics are the people who just can't abide other people not sharing their beliefs. That demand for agreement is the source of conflict, not the immutability of any belief. Unless directly asked I very seldom even say anything about my beliefs. I just take a fairly regular thrashing for refusing to agree with someone else's.
 
So you're saying I shouldn't have had Frank committed for thinking that everything in the universe is made out of a cheese-like substance? He seems to be doing better.

"Better" is a pretty nebulous and subjective observation. Was the only thing "wrong" with him this overpoweringly offensive to you belief in cheese? If so, I have to guess that by "better" you simply mean that he has been brought around to a way of thinking more in line with your own on this issue. Since I don't see where his cheese centered view of the universe posed any particular threat to him, you, or anyone else I see very little gained in the treatment.

Perhaps there are some details to Frank's case that you have left out...
 
So you're saying I shouldn't have had Frank committed for thinking that everything in the universe is made out of a cheese-like substance? He seems to be doing better.

But you didn't have Frank, or was it Steve, committed for thinking everything is made out of cheese.

You did it because he told you that's what he thought.

I've found I can think just about anything with total impunity. As long as I tell no one.
 
The problem is belief in cheesimoonity often goes along with embracing distasteful political ideas such as preferential treatment of crackers.
 
If so, I have to guess that by "better" you simply mean that he has been brought around to a way of thinking more in line with your own on this issue.

No, he's mentally unstable. He's now in a place where he can receive proper care for his condition. Him thinking that the moon is made of a cheese-like substance is a symptom of the underlying mental problems - not the problem itself.
 
No, he's mentally unstable. He's now in a place where he can receive proper care for his condition. Him thinking that the moon is made of a cheese-like substance is a symptom of the underlying mental problems - not the problem itself.

I would tread really lightly down the path of "error=mental illness" myself, but perhaps that's just me. If I were confident that I never would make an error I would probably have a different view.
 
Thinking that the moon is made of cheese is not an error. It's a sign that something is severely wrong with you and you probably should go see a doctor. I mean, unless you're just joking, but I assume we're assuming that this isn't the case.
 
The problem is belief in cheesimoonity often goes along with embracing distasteful political ideas such as preferential treatment of crackers.

You remember the schism of 1923, which took place on the 15th day of the season of Bureaucracy?

Cheesimoonies divided themselves into the Buttered Cracker faction ("No cracker shall remain knowingly unbuttered"), the Cheese and Pickle Cracker faction ("No cheese and crackers shall be eaten without pickles"), and the Ready Crumbled Cracker faction (self-explanatory really: every packet of crackers contains at least two which are ready-crumbled - the Ready Crumblers just take this a step further and hit the packet with a rolling pin).

The schism was acrimonious. Or do I mean acrimoonious?
 
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