US Foreign Policy and How it impacts Politics

[H4run]

"No foreign wars" means "we don't want Americans to die". Killing people is still mostly acceptable to the American public.

Oh my. I tried my best not to respond and let this slide, but I can’t. First: You clearly aren’t American, because your comment paints America as cartoonishly orcish. Second: Americans aren’t the stupid, bloodthirsty people they were decades ago. After losing in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan after reacting overwhelmingly to false alarms like WMDs (ring by bibi), it’s Americans who paid dearly with lives and money. They’ve swallowed those bitter lessons. Most (except those willfully stupid beyond comprehension) learned.

They refuse to send their kids as bullet bait in foreign lands for another military venture. Killing people isn’t a one-way street, bro. You want to label any retaliation as "terrorism" after you’ve killed them, but there will always be those who embrace the "terrorist" stamp to hit back. So no: The American public has wisened up. There’s been a radical shift. People are done. They don’t want to die, don’t want to kill others, and refuse to come home broken drowning in PTSD and poverty just to off themselves later.

 

[Voidwalkin]

First: You clearly aren’t American, because your comment paints America as cartoonishly orcish

I am.

Second: Americans aren’t the stupid, bloodthirsty people they were decades ago

We were never stupid. Held together an empire without the larger massacres of communist contemporaries.

Bloodthirsty is a matter of some dispute. It'll depend on who you ask.

After losing in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan after reacting overwhelmingly to false alarms like WMDs (ring by bibi), it’s Americans who paid dearly with lives and money. They’ve swallowed those bitter lessons. Most (except those willfully stupid beyond comprehension) learned.

They refuse to send their kids as bullet bait in foreign lands for another military venture. Killing people isn’t a one-way street, bro. You want to label any retaliation as "terrorism" after you’ve killed them, but there will always be those who embrace the "terrorist" stamp to hit back. So no: The American public has wisened up. There’s been a radical shift. People are done. They don’t want to die, don’t want to kill others, and refuse to come home broken drowning in PTSD and poverty just to off themselves later.

They're totally fine with shipping weapons out, or bombing people directly. We are presently the primary arms dealers of two active conflicts(arguably three) and I've heard it discussed seldom if ever.

America is actually so big and its public so used to killing that events like the attacks on Soleimani barely cause ripples. It may be sorta hard to swallow, but most American foreign policy doings barely even rate as issues in American politics and routinely lose verbal marketshare to the local baseball team in office watercooler talk.

It's really only ever discussed when Americans die.

 

[r16]

for those who wouldn't track it down , this thing starts with how Israeli extremism shackles the US and it is enabled by the US largesse or something like dat . Can't remember the date , but the argument is not new and it was in Time/Newsweek readers' letters page when some guy from Israel said he had never heard of heated towel racks . Which the Israelis were reported to have quite a number in their communal swimming pools in the Occupied Territories , West Bank and the like . Which were in the end protected by the US Taxpayer and yet Israel always managed to start new problems from old quarrels . Or something like that .

the disagreement like stems from the American BS that they couldn't and so somebody else would have to . This is the Islamist utopia thing that has got hold of places and anyone smart amongst them feels uneasy if things happen and the lawless laws they apply to others could in turn be applied to them . Back in simpler times , treason was a serious word , before being made a mockery by the said Islamists .

oh yeah , this thread or forum can not still handle an actual discussion of the Communist massacres done under American guidance and protection , starting from Pol Pot's august endevours .

 

[r16]

uh , oh , ah . Also this , supposedly done with registered US Voters and like Reddit says it is a fake ...

Spoiler :

Americans Were Asked To Find Iran On The Map, And Some Of Them Pointed At USA

Despite the possibility of war with Iran, one thing that many Americans can agree on is that they have no clue where the country in question actually is.

www.boredpanda.com

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

I remember the conniption fits when it turned out the US had soldiers in Mali. Needless to say Americans usually don't mind if our boys stay out of trouble but this nonetheless runs huge risks if things go awry, which can happen very very quickly, as the appetite for American casualties is not high at all. But this of course depends on the risks versus rewards...You may find that someone like JD Vance would have been against the Iraq war not on any moral grounds but because it did not offer the immediate payouts that was somehow promised.