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[Tulkas12]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8562942/

Yes, we are back in space. This after a long hiatus. Our ability to learn and expand as a civilization requires us to expand off of Earth. Welcome back the astronauts with a warm heart.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Tulkas, you might enjoy watching them live as they perform a spacewalk.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

 

[greenpeace]

MAKE ME PUKE

Human misions are by far the worst way to spend money in science. Robotic missions are so much better and collect so much more data for so much less money. To send a robot to the outerreaches of the solar system and explore a planet costs a tenth of what it costs to launch huamns into low-gravity orbit.We are no were near the technology required for living in any place except Earth. The space satation is COMPLETLY POINTLESS. That launch was a huge waste of money.

 

[Tulkas12]

Tulkas, you might enjoy watching them live as they perform a spacewalk.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

Thank you, and I did watch alot of it.

 

[Tulkas12]

MAKE ME PUKE

Human misions are by far the worst way to spend money in science. Robotic missions are so much better and collect so much more data for so much less money. To send a robot to the outerreaches of the solar system and explore a planet costs a tenth of what it costs to launch huamns into low-gravity orbit.We are no were near the technology required for living in any place except Earth. The space satation is COMPLETLY POINTLESS. That launch was a huge waste of money.

Wow, just wow. I would start here but its pointless I think. Its enough to say that robots are very useful for alot of things, but they aren't AI yet so ar vastly inferior to the human mind, especially the minds we spend so much on and send to such a dangerous place.

Space is truly the final frontier, we will waste trillions on the babay steps and happily so. We have to begin somewhere and though the station has its flaws, its a good starting point. I doubt you even understand how much the space program effects your daily life. . . so while you may percieve it as a waste of money, I would suggest that you look into yourself and see if you might be suffering from something common amonst people. . . shortsightedness.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

MAKE ME PUKE

Human misions are by far the worst way to spend money in science. Robotic missions are so much better and collect so much more data for so much less money. To send a robot to the outerreaches of the solar system and explore a planet costs a tenth of what it costs to launch huamns into low-gravity orbit.We are no were near the technology required for living in any place except Earth. The space satation is COMPLETLY POINTLESS. That launch was a huge waste of money.

There are so many more benefits to sending humans into orbit as opposed to robots, you obviously can't even begin to comprehend the importance of us putting humans into space, and the mountain of data and EXPERIENCE they get.
You say that we don't have the technology required for people to live in space, yet we have already been doing it for forty years! What do you think the astronauts are doing right now, eh? I'll give you a hint, they're sure as hell not dead! We keep astronauts up in the ISS for months at a time, my friend. We have the capability, we simly have yet to implement it.
Ok, assuming that you are right, and that we are nowhere near being able to colonize the stars, then what do you propose we do in the meantime? It's not asif we can just sit around waiting, until one day, the President gets the call: " Mr. President, we have just discovered the last technology needed to go into space." I've got news for you, this isn't Civilization, this is real life. The astronauts test a myriad of new things every time the go up, it's not as if they just sit around on their thumbs, and the decide "well I'm gonna go take a spacewalk."
I suggest you become more educated in the fields you discuss, my friend, because making outlandinsh statements of "fact" like this only make you look like a fool.

EDIT: Crosspost with Tulkas, I echo your words on the shortsightedness disease.

 

[Tulkas12]

There are so many more benefits to sending humans into orbit as opposed to robots, you obviously can't even begin to comprehend the importance of us putting humans into space, and the mountain of data and EXPERIENCE they get.
You say that we don't have the technology required for people to live in space, yet we have already been doing it for forty years! What do you think the astronauts are doing right now, eh? I'll give you a hint, they're sure as hell not dead! We keep astronauts up in the ISS for months at a time, my friend. We have the capability, we simly have yet to implement it.
Ok, assuming that you are right, and that we are nowhere near being able to colonize the stars, then what do you propose we do in the meantime? It's not asif we can just sit around waiting, until one day, the President gets the call: " Mr. President, we have just discovered the last technology needed to go into space." I've got news for you, this isn't Civilization, this is real life. The astronauts test a myriad of new things every time the go up, it's not as if they just sit around on their thumbs, and the decide "well I'm gonna go take a spacewalk."
I suggest you become more educated in the fields you discuss, my friend, because making outlandinsh statements of "fact" like this only make you look like a fool.

EDIT: Crosspost with Tulkas, I echo your words on the shortsightedness disease.

One of the big things we are trying to do up there is to get food to grow in zero gravity. . .A big deal indeed.

 

[Ansar]

Life in space will be different. Hopefully there will be sports.

but yes, growing things will be different, maybe in a gravity controlled room with artificial sunlight?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

but yes, growing things will be different, maybe in a gravity controlled room with artificial sunlight?

why? we have real sunlight!

 

[greenpeace]

LOL, do you guys know anything about science??? about 99.99999% of the scientific data we receive from space comes from robots. Sure a little is learned about what the body goes through in space, but we don't need to spend trillions to receive that little bit of data about how are unadapted bodies survive in space. At the very least we should be try researching better methods of getting things into space instead of spending $10,000 per pound on these missions. There are other ways of learning how to colonize space than doing a bunch of spacewalks.

I guess I care alot more about data and science than colonizing space.
If we would stop obssesing about colonizing the universe and actually finding scientific data we could find out so much more about the universe we live in.

 

[Tulkas12]

Life in space will be different. Hopefully there will be sports.

but yes, growing things will be different, maybe in a gravity controlled room with artificial sunlight?

Actually you are close here, wehave gotten some plants to grow with centripical force. Orientation of plants is still a real issue in space though. I don't know if they use growth lights or not, I doubt it considering the energy that would use, probably just filter the sunlight.

 

[Tulkas12]

LOL, do you guys know anything about science??? about 99.99999% of the scientific data we receive from space comes from robots. Sure a little is learned about what the body goes through in space, but we don't need to spend trillions to receive that little bit of data about how are unadapted bodies survive in space. At the very least we should be try researching better methods of getting things into space instead of spending $10,000 per pound on these missions. There are other ways of learning how to colonize space than doing a bunch of spacewalks.

I guess I care alot more about data and science than colonizing space.
If we would stop obssesing about colonizing the universe and actually finding scientific data we could find out so much more about the universe we live in.

My good sir, most of the research we do in space is with robots. The extyent to which you can program a robot and the extent to which you can adapt with them is extremely limited though, and furhtermore I think you are vastly underestimating what we learn. I think you care alot more about your social welfare programs and like alot that are of your mind fell its a waste when veiwed with your priorties. You will have to agree to disagree I think.

By the way, I'm an applied physics and engineering student, so science is my love.

 

[azzaman333]

LOL, do you guys know anything about science??? about 99.99999% of the scientific data we receive from space comes from robots. Sure a little is learned about what the body goes through in space, but we don't need to spend trillions to receive that little bit of data about how are unadapted bodies survive in space. At the very least we should be try researching better methods of getting things into space instead of spending $10,000 per pound on these missions. There are other ways of learning how to colonize space than doing a bunch of spacewalks.

I guess I care alot more about data and science than colonizing space.
If we would stop obssesing about colonizing the universe and actually finding scientific data we could find out so much more about the universe we live in.

Well, if we are going to colonise other planets, wouldnt we want people with experience in space to take the colonisers? And we will run out of room/kill everything on earth eventually, so we need a back up plan. Like using another planet to live on.

 

[greenpeace]

Are you kidding me, like you I presume, science is a huge part of my life. I have another friend whos also loves science and almost all we ever talk about is physics.

edit: im talking to Tulkas in this post

 

[Tulkas12]

Are you kidding me, like you I presume, science is a huge part of my life. I have another friend whos also loves science and almost all we ever talk about is physics.

edit: im talking to Tulkas in this post

No, I'm not kidding you, I was raised on the stuff.

 

[greenpeace]

The funny thing is that when I'm thinking about science I'm very fascinated and happy, but since I'm so concentrated I look like I'm depressed. It gets kind of annoying because whenever I am happily concentrated on it someone always intterupts my thoughts to ask me if I'm ok.

 

[Tulkas12]

The funny thing is that when I'm thinking about science I'm very fascinated and happy, but since I'm so concentrated I look like I'm depressed. It gets kind of annoying because whenever I am happily concentrated on it someone always intterupts my thoughts to ask me if I'm ok.

LOL, thats really knid of a funny quirk. I have no idea what I look like when studying. Big fan of history too, but its become kind of a sidenote with all the formal school and stuff. I do "zone out" on the stuff though. I rmemeber when I was 16, I picked up Michio Kaku's Hyperspace and didn't put it down till I finished the whole book.

 

[greenpeace]

Oh, I read that book too, unfortunently I was kind of young and come to think of it I actually was read to rather than actually reading it so I didn't understand that much. I would read it but I can't find it anywhere. Speaking of Michio Kaku's books have you read Parallel World's (written by Mr. Kakua of course). It is so amazing! One of my very favorite books. Also have you heard of "Explorations"? It's a radio show he has that talks about science and interviews scientists.

 

[Tulkas12]

Oh, I read that book too, unfortunently I was kind of young and come to think of it I actually was read to rather than actually reading it so I didn't understand that much. I would read it but I can't find it anywhere. Speaking of Michio Kaku's books have you read Parallel World's (written by Mr. Kakua of course). It is so amazing! One of my very favorite books. Also have you heard of "Explorations"? It's a radio show he has that talks about science and interviews scientists.

Yes and yes, he started out on radio on a show many here might know. . .Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. Man Art Bell was the shiznitz, I would stay up all not listening to him, now that I'm thinking of it, I really miss him. Yea, even in hte small town I'm in for some reason they play his show, I was flabergasted when I found out and listen to it every time its on.

 

[greenpeace]

What do you mean "miss him" doesn't he still run explorations? Well duh he does I just listened to him Tuesday.