Or send a unit with Sneak Attack capabilities.
[C3C] The Nine Conquests
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Toxicman007
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Very impressive how quickly you won Sengoku. I only have a couple Diplomatic wins in that Conquest, mostly just Domination wins.
Looking forward to French dominance! Vive La France! I have played this Conquest many many times, as every civ (even Sweden for the lulz). I have witnessed AI players razing cities with VP point locations on them, particularly in Italy/Kingdom of Naples, then having a hard time reinforcing their defenses of the ruined location. No idea if this happens in Deity but just something I wanted to share.
Looking forward to French dominance! Vive La France! I have played this Conquest many many times, as every civ (even Sweden for the lulz). I have witnessed AI players razing cities with VP point locations on them, particularly in Italy/Kingdom of Naples, then having a hard time reinforcing their defenses of the ruined location. No idea if this happens in Deity but just something I wanted to share.
That was also something I was afraid of in this scenario, because settlers cannot be built. An AI on the rampage and razing lots of cities, might make the Domination win quite difficult. Or even worse: losing a core city and then not being able to replace it...
Is there any evidence about what induces an AI to raze a captured city? If it is too far away and there's no hope of defending it? Or if the flip risk is too high?
BTW: first update of Napoleon is published.
Mine as well. And the Napoleonic Era was always one of my favorite topics in History. Read a bunch of books about it and watched lots of documentations. A quite detailed and historically acurate "biopic" of Napoleon was shot by German TV as 4-part series in 2002 and is now available on youtube. Link to first part:
(Or was it the BBC?! I found German, English and French versions, so probably an international effort...)
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High foreign Cultural value seems to be the main driver of the AI going raze-happy (also in the epic game). Whenever I've played this Conquest specifically, Venice always seems to get razed by the AI.
I will take a peek at it, thanks.
Napoleon, updates 2 and 3 are now online!
And part 4. Prussia is liberated, still heavy fighting on the Russian border and first successes against the Ottoman Empire on the Balkans.
I can only assume they wanted to represent the territories Austria got in the third partition and that was the best idea they could come up with? Or maybe it was a balance thing?
It's not like the scenario is a super-big stickler for sticking to the real geography of 1800-ish. The obvious one is that Germany and Italy weren't really unified at the time, but there's some other minor borders being a little off or cities not quite being in the right place (Mostar, for instance, is well inland of the coast), and one other glaring weirdness is Russia having control of Helsinki at the start, when it would have been part of Sweden at the time, and Russia didn't conquer Finland until 1809.
I think the designers of the scenario had to make a few compromises. If they had tried to create a "historically accurate" map, they would have ended up with as many small nations as in the Sengoku scenario... It looks like they just concentrated on the main players at that time, and then added the smaller nations to one or the other major player for balancing purposes. E.g. the territory of Bavaria has been added to Austria here...
Anyway, game is finished. I failed to reach domination, so it became yet another win on VPs...
Anyway, game is finished. I failed to reach domination, so it became yet another win on VPs...
Toxicman007
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Another great victory for Lanzelot! I assume there is no question which civ to pick for WW2 Pacific, surely Japan is the only option?
WWII Pacific is the scenario I have the least experience with... Why Japan? Isn't the US the strongest faction in this scenario, both in weapons as well as in production capacity?
But after I had France in the Napoleon scenario, I might be game for a more difficult challenge... I remember my last attempt was with the Common Wealth a few decades ago..., but I can't remember, whether I even finished that one, as it was dragging on very slowly...
Perhaps China might be an option, or would this be hopeless on Deity?
But after I had France in the Napoleon scenario, I might be game for a more difficult challenge... I remember my last attempt was with the Common Wealth a few decades ago..., but I can't remember, whether I even finished that one, as it was dragging on very slowly...
Perhaps China might be an option, or would this be hopeless on Deity?
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A significant problem with some of the conquest scenarios is CivIII's inability to handle economic growth well enough. In the Napoleonic scenario France is stronger than Britain although Britain had a 40% bigger GDP (despite its smaller population). In the Pacific War scenario, the USA is limited to its west coast cities which cannot of themselves produce the torrent of stuff that actually flowed into the pacific war during 1943 and especially 1944. Thus the US is by no means the power it should be in the scenario.
A significant problem with some of the conquest scenarios is CivIII's inability to handle economic growth well enough. In the Napoleonic scenario France is stronger than Britain although Britain had a 40% bigger GDP (despite its smaller population). In the Pacific War scenario, the USA is limited to its west coast cities which cannot of themselves produce the torrent of stuff that actually flowed into the pacific war during 1943 and especially 1944. Thus the US is by no means the power it should be in the scenario.
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(And I'm honored that my little story here got your very first post...
)I think the scenario designers made that decision to include only the US west coast for two reasons:
- for game balance...
- and to mimic the historic circumstances that the US at the same time had to fight the Axis Powers in Europe, and Roosevelt had agreed with Churchill to take care of "Germany first". So supposedly the main production of the US flowed into the operations in Northern Africa, Sicily, Italy and finally D-Day.
However, I think that despite the slogan "Germany first", the US poured more resources into the Pacific war than into the European theater, simply because in the Pacific they mainly had to fight on their own (ok, China fought a major portion of the Japanese forces from 1937-1945 and Great Britain/Common Wealth provided a little bit of support from Burma, Singapore and Australia), while in Europe the US got a huge help from the Soviet Union, Great Britain, Common Wealth, as well as Polish and French volunteer corps. (Compared to the Soviet effort, the US effort is probably minuscule, but even if we consider only D-Day and the western front, the portion of Britain + Canada probably equals the US effort?! I would really like to see some numbers here, but I think in terms of naval power and air forces for the D-Day preparation, the British effort was bigger than the US effort, and in terms of ground forces for D-Day, British-Canadian effort was probably not less than the US effort.)
I am no where your level in Civ 3, but I have played WWII Pacific scenario a few times, though on lower levels. I think Japan is the strongest. The US has limited land and nowhere near the capital to capture. It also has its Forbidden Palace in Manila, which is likely to be captured quickly if you do not ensure it survives. Another disadvantage is that is starts without amphibious warfare (and the paratroopers tech, but I do not use them much). Japan starts with more land, and has the relatively weak China just next door to give it even more.
However, I expect it to be one of the easiest for you, as the AI is so bad at naval air war, and the deity production matters less as everyone starts with so many units.
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One Of Our Own, using the handle "Suede," has a Civ 3 YouTube channel, including (FWIW) -
.. And I've no idea why it's labelled "Unavailable,” as I’m watching it as I type:
.. And I've no idea why it's labelled "Unavailable,” as I’m watching it as I type:
Civ 3's "Conquest" scenarios ranked completely (un)objectively
Odd: this is the 2nd time I've been unable to embed a YouTube video here ...This video is unavailable
... After you type in the URL "YouTube.com," add, "/watch?v=wfrOX6svCzI&list=PLCIXBEXEt3zaYQmH-qjF5GwhxqGsL9bep&index=27"
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