The Number 23 - coincedence or not?

[refracted]

When I saw the commercial, I was hoping for an Illuminatus! movie.

But no such luck. It is a fantastic series of books though, and yes, it is about Discordianism. (And conspiracy theories, in a satirical way)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

 

[Kyriakos]

213 is not that bad of a number. Apart from all of its digits being primes (2,1,3) 213 itself is a prime.
The sum of the digits of 213 is 3! (1+2+3), with 3 being an important symbolic number.
the digits 2,1,3 can be writen as x, x-1, x+1, so they are also x+2x=3x, with 3 showing up once more.
3 is also the final digit, and the largest one, so it is final in two ways.

There are a lot more things one could think about 213

 

[malclave]

8675309 is mine.

Wow, that's just freaky!

There was a time back in high school (about 25 years ago?) that I kept hearing that number over and over again, usually with a girl's name associated with it.

I still hear those voices and that number every now and again, but nowhere near as often as I used to.

 

[aaglo]

My freaky number is 22

 

[sanabas]

Apart from all of its digits being primes (2,1,3) 213 itself is a prime.

Wrong twice over. 1 is not a prime. Neither is 213.

 

[Kyriakos]

Is 213 not a prime? I was making a guess, however can you name some of its factors then apart from itself and 1?

And 1 is a prime, unless you forgot the definition of a prime. It is not rellevant if mathematicians choose to not use it as such in some models, for their own reasons. 1 has only itself, 1, as a factor.

edit: 71, well, ok, i was not in the best math form

 

[sanabas]

Is 213 not a prime? I was making a guess, however can you name some of its factors then apart from itself and 1?

And 1 is a prime, unless you forgot the definition of a prime. It is not rellevant if mathematicians choose to not use it as such in some models, for their own reasons. 1 has only itself, 1, as a factor.

I know 1 is not a prime, because I know the definition of a prime.

edit: 71, well, ok, i was not in the best math form

Or 3. Any decimal integer whose digits sum to a multiple of 3 is divisible by 3. So if "the digits x, y, z, can be writen as x, x-1, x+1", then the number is divisible by 3, and not a prime.

 

[Kyriakos]

Ty for pointing out that 3 is also a factor. You could also point out how 71 was found, without it. It probably will involve a complicated equation. The number 1, on the other hand, played again a role in my own reply

And what is important is to examine the relations between numbers which share qualities. My degree is not in mathematics, however it is quite obvious that 1 has very important similarities with other primes. Now i suspect that it is not used as a prime (although it had been named as one) so as to form theories that include all other primes but not it. Same as what is happening for 2 in some other theories.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

it has practically become a game for me.

And that's why you notice it

If I gave you a random list of numbers....

2184732643782590238935213987359

I bet your eye was drawn to a particular part of that sequence, huh?

 

[CurtSibling]

I recently saw a movie trailer about this new movie. Its apparently about a man who has constant references to the number 23 all throughout his life, shown to the viewer in a way that you dont know if its real, or some type of mental illness.

My question to the masses here is do you have a certain number that hounds you? Because I think I might and sometimes it drives me crazy.

Now let me be straight about it. Logic would say that its just me imagining things, however, its hard for me to logically explain how a particular number continually seems to turn up for me in my life.

My particular number is 213. Here are the types of coincedences I see happening all the time.

1. The house I was born in had the address 213 Elm Street.
2. I often wake up in the middle of the night at...you guessed it - 2:13 am.
3. Just last night I was watching an episode of CSI and a door number to a cell was 213.
4. I bought my current house two years ago and no..the address does not have a 213 on it. However, after I had lived there for 6 months I noticed the telephone pole at the corner of my lot has a marker number on it. That number is 213.

It also routinely shows up in other ways as well. Scores for games. Cost of a purchase.

Now this doesnt happen constantly...nor every day, but I would have to say I spot a reference to the number 213 at least once a week as a minimum. Just enough for me to notice it.

I feel silly even pointing it out and it has practically become a game for me. Then I saw the movie preview for this movie and it made me think. Are their other people with their particular 'number' that follows them? Are we crazy? Or just noticing an insignificant coincedence?

By all means please discuss.

Strangely, the number 33 pops up in my life all the time, no joke.

It could be that our brains begin to recognise the frequency of the digits,
and starts to look out for them...It is a tad freaky...Like we have a destiny!

...

 

[Sidhe]

Wrong twice over. 1 is not a prime. Neither is 213.

Why isn't -1 a prime is more interesting.

it has 2 divisors 1 and -1. And 1 has two divisors 1 and -i+2

 

[Fifty]

ok guys 23 I can understand... I mean that's a pretty low whole number and so the odds are pretty decent that you'll see it pretty often.

For me, though, it's soooooo much creepier. Every single time, and I mean EVERY SINGLE TIME I take the circumference of any circle that i'm around and divide it by the diameter, I get the SAME NUMBER. It's 3 followed by a crapload of decimals.

I'm not joking or lying, seriously.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I had 666 haunting me for a while. One day was really weird.

First I noticed when I went to the supermarket for tabacco and a pack of chewing gum. 6,66 (yes, just like that movie), got to my car and saw the milage: 100066,6 km. Coincidence, smiled and shrugged. That evening Im played Demolition Derby 2. You can score 5,10,25,50 and 100 points by crashing and stuff. There also some bonus involved (units of 50). Due to some bug I scored 666.

Of course I put on Iron Maiden that same evening, but that was no coincidence. I just had to.

O yeah, and from time to time my head spins 360 degrees.

 

[Sidhe]

Let he who hath understanding reckon the number of the beats for it is a human number: it's number is six hundred and sixty six.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_(number)

666 is an abundant number. It is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers (i.e. 1 + 2 + 3... + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666), and thus a triangular number. Since 36 is both square and triangular, 666 is the sixth number of the form n2(n2 + 1) / 2 (triangular squares) and the eighth number of the form n(n + 1)(n2 + n + 2) / 8 (doubly triangular numbers.)

666 is the sum of the squares of the first seven prime numbers (i.e. 22 + 32 + 52 + 72 + 112 + 132 + 172 = 666)

I love this one: 6-6-6 is Waw-Waw-Waw ("WWW") in Hebrew, since in Hebrew, letters have numerical values. Curse you devil internet!!

 

[Sidhe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_(number)

666 is an abundant number. It is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers (i.e. 1 + 2 + 3... + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666), and thus a triangular number. Since 36 is both square and triangular, 666 is the sixth number of the form n2(n2 + 1) / 2 (triangular squares) and the eighth number of the form n(n + 1)(n2 + n + 2) / 8 (doubly triangular numbers.)

666 is the sum of the squares of the first seven prime numbers (i.e. 22 + 32 + 52 + 72 + 112 + 132 + 172 = 666)

I love this one: 6-6-6 is Waw-Waw-Waw ("WWW") in Hebrew, since in Hebrew, letters have numerical values. Curse you devil internet!!

Nuber is 616 in some versions, either way it corresponds directly to Neros name, something that is lost on modern day biblical readers.

Nero Caesar = 616

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

At the end of 66, conflict broke out between Greeks and Jews in Jerusalem and Caesarea. According to a Jewish legend in the Talmud (tractate Gitin 56a-b) [5], Nero came to Jerusalem and told his men to fire arrows in all four directions. All the arrows landed in the city. He then asked a passing child to repeat the verse he had learned that day. "I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel," (Ez. 25,14) said the child. Nero became terrified, realizing that God wanted the Temple in Jerusalem to be destroyed, but would punish him if it were. Nero said, "He desires to lay waste his House and to lay the blame on me." Nero fled to Rome and converted to Judaism to avoid such retribution.[143] Vespasian was then dispatched to put down the rebellion.

Christian tradition

Because of Tacitus's claim about Nero blaming the fire on Christians, Christian tradition paints Nero as a first persecutor of Christians and the killer of Peter and Paul.

The Bible gives no indication on how or when Peter or Paul died. The Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (275-339) was the first to write that Paul was beheaded during the reign of Nero[144][6]. Yet, other accounts have Paul traveling to Spain during this period.[145] Peter is first said to have been crucified upside down in Rome by Nero in the apocryphal Acts of Peter (c. 200 C.E) [7]. The story ends with Paul still alive and Nero abiding by God's command not to persecute any more Christians.

New Testament

In 422, Augustine of Hippo wrote about 2 Thessalonians 2:1–11, where he believed Paul mentioned the coming of the Anti-Christ. Though he rejects the theory, Augstine mentions that many Christians believed that Nero was the Anti-Christ or would return as the Anti-Christ.

so that in saying, "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work," he alluded to Nero, whose deeds already seemed to be as the deeds of Antichrist.[146]

Some religious scholars, such as Delbert Hillers (John Hopkins University) of the American Schools of Oriental Research and the editors of the Oxford & Harper Collins translations, contend that the number 666 in the Book of Revelation is a code for Nero,[147] a view that is also supported in Roman Catholic Biblical commentaries.[148][149]

Later Christian writers

Main article: Number of the Beast

Sibylline Oracles, Book 3, allegedly written before Nero's time, prophesies about the Anti-Christ and identifies him with Nero. However, it was actually written long after him and this identification was in any case rejected by Irenaeus in Against Heresies, Book 5, 27–30. They represent the mid-point in the change between the New Testament's identification of the past (Nero) or current (Domitian) anti-Christ, and later Christian writers' concern with the future anti-Christ. One of these later writers is Commodianus whose Institutes, 1.41, states that the future anti-Christ will be Nero returned from hell.

 

[Kyriakos]

Wasnt there a great fire in London in 1666?

 

[brennan]

The sum of the digits of 213 is 3!

You sure it's not 6? The product would be 6 as well.

 

[Kyriakos]

Notation, (misplaced) notation "!" was not meant as an exclamation mark

 

[Sidhe]

Wasnt there a great fire in London in 1666?

yep. Another coincidence. Since there was a plague that preceded it and in fact the fire killed much of the plague bearing rats and disease leading to a faster cure, I'd say it was a blessing in disguise, and not a flood or a famine to be seen AFAIK but maybe it's already happened again?