The Official Perfection KOs Creationism Thread!
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Masquerouge
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ybbor said:
Oh my non-existing God. We are all doomed. It's strange that one of the, if not the, most scientifically advanced nation in the planet is not able to properly educate its population
JoeM
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Well to be fair, most people only spend time on issues that matter to them, and that puts TV head and shoulders ahead of the nature of the universe for the majority of western civilization.
One of my favourite quotes:
"Against ignorance, the gods themselves contend in vain"
At the end of the day it's not the issue you are worked up about it's the apparent* ignorance of those you are arguing with.
*Note I'm not taking sides with this comment.
Well to be fair, most people only spend time on issues that matter to them, and that puts TV head and shoulders ahead of the nature of the universe for the majority of western civilization.
One of my favourite quotes:
"Against ignorance, the gods themselves contend in vain"
At the end of the day it's not the issue you are worked up about it's the apparent* ignorance of those you are arguing with.
*Note I'm not taking sides with this comment.
ybbor
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Masquerouge said:Oh my non-existing God. We are all doomed. It's strange that one of the, if not the, most scientifically advanced nation in the planet is not able to properly educate its population
what are you talking about, China isn't the most scientifically advanced nation
Masquerouge
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JoeM said:
Yeah, but still... To me, the whole idea of things popping up out of nothingness in a finite state is much, much more disturbing than the idea of things very gradually and very slowly evolving.
And I don't even want to speak about trusting the nth translation of a book written thousands of years ago by some middle-east farmers more than the cosmogony reasonned and deduced by men all around the world.
If the majority of your population believe this, then there's something badly wrong with your education system.
ybbor said:
nope - there is, though you may have missed that fact, a large christian population OUTSIDE 'God's own country'. And they tend to be more capable of a differentiating point of view, thus see no problem with science contradicting a literal interpretation of the bible.
Perfection
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Lozzy_Ozzy
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Hmmmm, sorry to bump, and sorry if this has already been said before...
This is for those that believe God created everything:
If Adam and Eve were either black, white, or some other colour entirely, and even if they were both different, then how come we have people with different skin colours and builds to accomadate their environment?
This is for those that believe God created everything:
If Adam and Eve were either black, white, or some other colour entirely, and even if they were both different, then how come we have people with different skin colours and builds to accomadate their environment?
The Last Conformist
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That's the Intelligent Tinkerer in action for you! 
Oh, and I thought I'd share this one with you:
Oh, and I thought I'd share this one with you:
Ray Martinez said:
Blasphemous
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Holy fcuk. Holy fcuking fcuk. Argh. Ahhh. Ahhhhhhhhh!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
*Blasphemous runs screaming into the night.*
Holy fcuk. Holy fcuking fcuk. Argh. Ahhh. Ahhhhhhhhh!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
*Blasphemous runs screaming into the night.*
Lozzy_Ozzy
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What???!!
The scientific evidence just gets worse everytime :shakehead.
The scientific evidence just gets worse everytime :shakehead.
Sophie 378
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OMG, this thread is so funny! I love watching the creationists huff and puff and try to blow our house down by speaking out of their ... hats. 
My personal summary would be, that if you THINK that evolution could be true, then looking at the evidence, it looks like it very probably is? But, if you FEEL that some sort of religious creation/changing of life is true, then you can ignore all of the observations that don't fit your worldview because they might make you feel uncomfortable?
By scientific method, you can only DISprove evolution (OK, or show it - yet again - is more likely to be true), but the only evidence that creationists would accept as showing that evolution is true would be god writing on the sky "hey guys! The bible was a set of metaphores! Why not think about things rather than just blindly trusting that book you think is the only way to know me, and refusing everything else?" (Or for the even more close-minded, a personal visit with a signed chit to say evolution is true).
Or if you want some logic-chopping: evolution could theoretically be disproved. No-one has yet thought up an experiment to disprove god. So i'd better trot along to the nearest church?
My personal summary would be, that if you THINK that evolution could be true, then looking at the evidence, it looks like it very probably is? But, if you FEEL that some sort of religious creation/changing of life is true, then you can ignore all of the observations that don't fit your worldview because they might make you feel uncomfortable?
By scientific method, you can only DISprove evolution (OK, or show it - yet again - is more likely to be true), but the only evidence that creationists would accept as showing that evolution is true would be god writing on the sky "hey guys! The bible was a set of metaphores! Why not think about things rather than just blindly trusting that book you think is the only way to know me, and refusing everything else?" (Or for the even more close-minded, a personal visit with a signed chit to say evolution is true).
Or if you want some logic-chopping: evolution could theoretically be disproved. No-one has yet thought up an experiment to disprove god. So i'd better trot along to the nearest church?
ybbor
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Sophie 378 said:OMG, this thread is so funny! I love watching the creationists huff and puff and try to blow our house down by speaking out of their ... hats.
My personal summary would be, that if you THINK that evolution could be true, then looking at the evidence, it looks like it very probably is? But, if you FEEL that some sort of religious creation/changing of life is true, then you can ignore all of the observations that don't fit your worldview because they might make you feel uncomfortable?
ignoring my instinctive reaction to ignore any post that begins with "OMG"
...I would say exactly the same thing to you about this thread, with the roles reveresed
Perfection
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You're always welcome to pick apart problems in evolutionist arguements to justify that.ybbor said:ignoring my instinctive reaction to ignore any post that begins with "OMG"
I would say exactly the same thing to you about this thread, with the roles reveresed
I both know and think that God exists and that he created the world. I don't think you should assume that creationists just "feel" it and just go on that.Sophie 378 said:
Yes, actually you should. Especially as if there is a God and you don't believe in him he'll likely be ticked - if there isn't and you do believe in him then you've lost nothing at all.
Well, sometimes when it rains....
It makes you feel like your intelligence is slowly draining away, but you can do it.
Perfection
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No, but from my perspectie an emotional componant is apparent in creationism.Elrohir said:
But if it's the wrong god he'll be more ticked then if you didn't believe in a god at allElrohir said:Yes, actually you should. Especially as if there is a God and you don't believe in him he'll likely be ticked - if there isn't and you do believe in him then you've lost nothing at all.
Well, Babbler's just demonstrating the silliness of Ray Martinez's arguement that TLC was so kind to share.Elrohir said:Well, sometimes when it rains....
Yeah, Sophie 378 needs to learn a little bit more about debatin'.Elrohir said:It makes you feel like your intelligence is slowly draining away, but you can do it.
ybbor
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Perfection said:
as I have
The Last Conformist
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Pascal's wager rests on assumptions no Christian should accept. To borrow a motif from the Bible, the demons would go to Heaven if it holds.Elrohir said:Yes, actually you should. Especially as if there is a God and you don't believe in him he'll likely be ticked - if there isn't and you do believe in him then you've lost nothing at all.
The Last Conformist
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You'd do well to point out what she's ignored.ybbor said:
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