The origin of the white man!

DreadCthulhu said:
Can you please give a cite for this? The FDA & every other source I found disagrees with you; the Vitamin D you get by eating foods like fatty fish, egg yolks, and fortified milk is identical to the vitamin D your body produces in via UV radiation.

I'll make a mea-culpa here.

I was wrong when I stated that it's impossiblt to ingest Vit D. It's true that most foods only have Pro-Vitamin D, but in fact a few of them have Vitamin D. Like fish liver.

However I don't see how this help the "Adaptation" theory. After all the scandinavian diet is also very rich in fish, and thus they would not need as much sulnlight and thus they would not need to be white.
 
luiz said:
I'll make a mea-culpa here.

I was wrong when I stated that it's impossiblt to ingest Vit D. It's true that most foods only have Pro-Vitamin D, but in fact a few of them have Vitamin D. Like fish liver.

However I don't see how this help the "Adaptation" theory. After all the scandinavian diet is also very rich in fish, and thus they would not need as much sulnlight and thus they would not need to be white.
Just a suggestion: Maybe an established scandinavian soceity could thrive with darker skin, but perhaps they were already white by the time this became the case. Remember that the Inuit do not share the same environment as in scandinavia.
 
Allow me to but in...

As for the "black albino" there is always the possibility that somwhere among his ancestors a few generations back there lurks a couple of blond, blue eyed and pale skinned individuals. If so, it wouldn't take more than a combination of these recessive traits to meet up to give a dark skinned couple a pale skinned baby. It happens once in a while, and I'd say that in a place like Brazil the chances for this are better than in most other places. The statistical likelyhood is at least better than for it to be a very exotic mutation.
I've always found it to be to the very great credit of the Portugese and the Brazilians that they have never quite embraced the "coulour line" crap of the North Europeans.
(In fact, I'm slightly troubled by the almost 19th century like fascination with pigmentation and racial classification I find here. It certainly isn't state of the art biological theory.)
As far as I've understood the molecular biologists who have taken an interest in these things, the problem with the genes for pigmentation are rather a-typical, not good for the classification of anything much, and some of the most easily changed traits in a population.

And, incidentally, Scandinavian traditional food patterns only involves fish and seafood in the instances where people have been living close to the sea. It may be tru of the Norwegians, but hasn't been so for the Danes or Swedes since the advent of agriculture. (Same climate and conditions as in northern Germany, Poland etc.) Before that Scandinavians lived like people did in the rest of Western Europe (hunting, fishing, gathering). Besides, there is no real reason to look to Scandinavia to find pale and blond peolpe. The Russians are every bit as blond. The Finns are even blonder on average.

And since we are talking about evolutionism, why hasn't anybody yet tried to make a case based on Darwin's theory of sexual selection? It may be that the "wimmin" just liked the pale skinned lads better? It would do away with any need to position a significant advantage for survival.
In truth, no one quite knows why there is a continuuum of slight physical difference in the human population that rougly corresponds to geographical distribution. (And on a genetical level these differences are very, very superficial.)
 
Why should Scandinavians look anything special relative others? 10 000 years ago Scandinavia was covered in ice, I'm sure none of my ancestors lived here then. 10 000 years is a short period when discussing genetics. 10 000 years ago norhern America was also covered in ice, the Inuit didn't live there then either. This shows the founder principle that luiz are talking about, the Inuit are related to asians going over the Bering Strait about 12 000 BC, of course they retain some of those looks. What people shpuld realise is that evolution takes places over generations, it takes a long time to get a effect in a population.
On the other hand that albino theory is unscientific nonsense IMO.

I'm sure no one can say what colour ancient man had in Africa. That is thousands of generations ago, no one can know if they were purple or not (not very probable though ;) ).
 
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