The Orle Open (sponsored by the CHD)

[Cyc]

The Orle Open

Welcome to the Orle Open tournament, brought to you by the fine folks over at the Creative History Department.

Compete against other citizens for the coveted title of Master Historian and the grand prize of 1000 cliks*! Simply download the save and play the game. Highest score wins the tournament.




Creative Historian II - The Culture Win


This is a friendly competition game, so open discussion and screenshots are welcome. Come one. Come all. Good luck!

Feel free to use #demogame_CHD on irc.irc-chat.net to discuss, compare, brag, etc. with your fellow competitors.

The tournament ends at the end of this month, so be sure to submit your scores in time to qualify.

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* according to the newly established department of the treasury, 100 cliks = 1g.

 

[Cyc]

This is a save that will be an interesting game for those of us who are builders. The Win will be based on the Cultural aspect of the game. The Master Creative Historian will awarded at the end of the month. Every Culture Victory will earn the title, but the Grand Prize goes to the Player with the highest culture point total.

There are a total of 7 random AI tribes on a Huge map. Culturally Linked starting positions, Respawning, and accelerated production are off. This is a Monarch level game.

Have fun. Oh yeah, the save will need to be posted to verify the win.

 

[Rik Meleet]

I'm gonna play this one.

Huge hey ?

 

[tao]

What a great starting position. Rapid expansion is assured by a 4 turn settler factory. The downside: playing for culture takes a lot of time.

Going for culture is not easy. When you want to build units, you have to build culture instead. Only build the bare minimum of units!

I went for republic asap and was republic 775bc. My Golden Age was triggered by building The Pyramids in 470bc; together with the Colossus (510bc) the civ traits of industrious and expansionist were met.

Status 10AD
19 cities
14 temples
14 libraries
6 cathedrals
3 colosseums
The Pyramids, Colossus, Great Lighthouse (all hand-build)
culture value 2453

Notorious Xerxes demanded literature 1200bc; no way; he declares war. We sign-up Rome and Japan and never see any Persian units. But the fight still goes on.
10BC Iroqois ROP raped and declared war. Hope to keep it low profile.

I stopped expansion for culture; now resuming expansion. Maybe not the best way to do it.

 

[Cyc]

I'm glad to see both of you playing the latest CHD Open again. Tao you kicked my butt on the last one, but even though I'm ineligible for this tourney, I plan on giving you some competition.

The Orle Open is part of the Spring Festival. The days are beautiful, the sun is warm, a great atmosphere for Culture building. I hope we have lots of Players this time. Good luck, Rik Meleet. BTW, Huge is the only way I like to play.

 

[Rik Meleet]

I don't play to compete, I play for fun. I am easily beatable in this game. But I do go cultural.
Tomorrow is for real (quarter final Bridge tournament).

Gold anyone ?

 

[tao]

Originally posted by Rik Meleet
I don't play to compete, I play for fun. I am easily beatable in this game. But I do go cultural.

So do I: fun and cultural. And building infrastructure like crazy. I never build early temples or medieval colosseums in standard games. And I usually build markets before cathedrals. But not this time.

The question is: what is better: to use all the cash for hurrying temples and libraries (regrettably we are neither religious nor scientific and thus this is expensive)?
Or spend money on research?

 

[Rik Meleet]

The question is: what is better: to use all the cash for hurrying temples and libraries (regrettably we are neither religious nor scientific and thus this is expensive)?
Or spend money on research?

Culture is decisive. And seeing that culture doubles after 1000 years I'd say rushing is more important than research, although not a lot. But why can't it go together ? Libs give culture and research. Temples give culture and allow bigger cities and more comerce for research. But the best would be Great Lib, lotsa culture and free techs.

BTW I didn't get (or go for, I can't remember) the Great Lib.

But OTOH research-trades gives money to rush culture.

 

[tao]

Originally posted by Rik Meleet
But the best would be Great Lib, lotsa culture and free techs.

I built it, leading the AIs by 4 - 5 techs. And 4 turns later I learned education.

 

[Rik Meleet]

You German !

(This message refers to the DG4, in which Germany researched Republic themselves, while having build the Great Lib).

 

[tao]

I rarely ever build the Great Library for getting techs. Either I am the tech leader, or (on deity) I have little chance to build it.

In this game I built it for the 6 culture points. And since I wanted to get the culture from universities ASAP, I had to go for education before beelining for military tradition.

 

[tao]

In this game, I did very little trading to keep the tech progress of the AIs slow. I researched towards education (universities) and afterwards to military tradition (cavalry). I skipped the optional techs (except mt), since they could easily be acquired by trading. And my pre-builds secured the wonders. Because of all the science power from libraries and universities, I soon pulled several techs ahead of all AIs.

My infrastructure build order in the cities was most unusual, since the objective was culture boost: library, university, temple, cathedral, colosseum, market, bank. From the Middle Ages on I also built all Great Wonders.

The histographs nicely show my strategy: first settling all available land and boosting culture, second expansion by force to increase Firaxis score, third culture in the newly acquired lands. The final culture push came from founding lots of cities and hurrying libraries and temples in them with my +2800 gpt.

I was permanently at war from 1140 till 1555, 415 years or 52 turns while staying in republic. Do you read this, you whimps worrying about war weariness? It was easy to run over the AIs with my cavalry, but I often had to hunt for the last settler aboard some ships.
England 1140 - 1260.
Japan 1170 - 1285.
Persia 1285 - 1315.
Iroquios 1315 - 1365 (1415).
Rome 1385 - 1525.
Germany 1400 - 1555.
I specially set up two killing grounds in the war against Germany and Rome, redlining with artillery, killing with elite cavalry.

This created a lot of Great Leaders, 23 in all. They built army, FP, army, army, pentagon, army, iron works, 16 universities and cathedrals.

Cultural victory (100979) in 1555 with Firaxis Score of 7959.

This save of 1550 allows you to watch the replay.

PS: This was a "lazy game": I automated a lot of wokers in the later game stage and did not mm my cities, because it was played for fun and I didn't want to spend the time necessary for an optimized game.

 

[Rik Meleet]

It seems there are only 2 contenders in this game; you and me. You've won I guess (Although I havent finished yet). I'm in 1615 AD, total culture = 51407.

The difference is: I've not fought many wars; my dislike of them blocked me from getting a higher score. I have about 1/3 of your territory in 1555 AD.

Congrats, tao. I'll fight you in the Cala-open in April again.

Sorry CHD, I won't finish anymore. This contest I cannot win and my dislike of huge maps prevents me from getting enjoyment out of continuing this game. I hope next month's game will be played on a smaller map, with less violence. What about a max number of cities (say 20) with victory condition; Diplo, on a standard map ?

tao has shown his competence in aggressive games. My questioin is: does being civilized mean being aggressive ? Not in my dictionary.

Love to play the Cala-open in April.

 

[tao]

I usually prefer to build over aggression. But I played for culural domination already once in the GOTM medal play series game 6-2 and in the discussion thread I learned that the "best" way is to expand before hurrying culture. As you see, I did not follow this rule painstakungly, but prefered a "builders game" before the forceful expansion.

And I agree with you, that huge maps just take too long to play. I probably wouldn't play them in the future.

 

[Cyc]

The Creative History Department is proud to award tao with the Creative Historian for his excellent victory in the Orle Spring Festival Tourney.

Personally, I gave it my best and found I was no match for the skills of this month's winner. Congratulations tao, you do fine work on a huge map.

I've noted some comments by Rik Meleet dealing with future CHD Opens. I'm not sure if the "XXX" open remarks were because the names of the months on the Fanatican calendar are not known or if it just meant any future Open. If it's the former, please see this link The Fanatican Calandar for the names of the tribal moons our calendar is based on. Our next tourney will be the Cala Open.

Again thanks to all who participated in this event, even if you're like me and don't post your scores. There is sure to be another CHD Open next month, so stay tuned.

 

[Rik Meleet]

What XXXX 's ??