The questions-not-worth-their-own-question-thread III

[GinandTonic]

Please in the name of all that is good and unamerican in this world, no! HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOULS!!!!!!!!

Unamerican? As far as I know mum-cussing has a fine history all over the world. Obviously the Americans are more into the mum-fat than the mum-slut type of mum-cuss, leading to a more formal if rather less colourful variety.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I am familiar with advanced age, promiscuity, obesity, and stupidity as typical maternal traits.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

I am familiar with advanced age, promiscuity, obesity, and stupidity as typical maternal traits.

What about poverty? As in "Your momma's so poor, when a visitor stepped on a cigarette, she said 'Who turned off the heat?'".

 

[GinandTonic]

I am familiar with advanced age, promiscuity, obesity, and stupidity as typical maternal traits.

So the prevalance of the mum-fat as opposed to mum-slut cuss in US media is because of what is broadcastable? I would guess that >80% of UK mum-cussing when I were a lad was mum-slut based.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

So the prevalance of the mum-fat as opposed to mum-slut cuss in US media is because of what is broadcastable? I would guess that >80% of UK mum-cussing when I were a lad was mum-slut based.

Yeah, probably.

(And of course, a simple generic "your mom does x" when someone mentions x is popular, especially among more "grown up" type people - for example, it's what my brother and I tell each other at family gatherings.)

 

[Phlegmak]

I am familiar with advanced age, promiscuity, obesity, and stupidity as typical maternal traits.

I remember Bozo Erectus coming up with some good ones. Something about "Yo momma so ugly, the universe is red shifting away from her face."

 

[GinandTonic]

I remember Bozo Erectus coming up with some good ones. Something about "Yo momma so ugly, the universe is red shifting away from her face."

Genius. Whatever happened to Bozo?

 

[Atticus]

Genius. Whatever happened to Bozo?

With that kind output, it's not hard to guess.

Yeah, probably.

(And of course, a simple generic "your mom does x" when someone mentions x is popular

Finnish version is "Your father did/was x while he was making you", which often ends up to be genuinely amusing. It's also popular among mature and grown up people.

 

[Mowque]

i have to say, i've never heard a 'your mommas so..' joke unless it was a satire of such jokes...?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Has there ever been a true communist state and society in all of human history? If not the utopian view, then a working version.

 

[Cutlass]

The Native Americans of North America had a pretty communal society.

 

[GoodGame]

Probably several in the USA's history. Oneida, NY being one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community

Probably other early religious communities (both say in early Christian times, as well as in early USA/American times) could be lumped into that category. For instance: the Quakers, Amish, hippie communes etc..

Probably the same for some pirate havens: e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertatia

EDIT: In true the communist treatise sense, maybe only the Paris Commune: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_commune

 

[GinandTonic]

Quakers as communists? Who also formed some of the first serious multinational corporations?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

The Native Americans of North America had a pretty communal society.

State. I said state.

 

[Cutlass]

State. I said state.

So Indians don't count because they didn't have central governments? Remember that the state is supposed to "wither away" under communist theory.

 

[GoodGame]

I guess not Quakers, reading on them some more as they are un-idealists (no creeds), but I'd say any of the early American communities founded for religious freedoms, but with a sect doctrine, would fit the form of a communal government.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

So Indians don't count because they didn't have central governments? Remember that the state is supposed to "wither away" under communist theory.

I thought communism was the notion that the state owned the means of production?

 

[hossam]

I thought communism was the notion that the state owned the means of production?

no, not the state, the people.

 

[Mowque]

actually wasn't the idea first the state and then the people take over ocne the state is deemed irrelevant?

 

[Cutlass]

actually wasn't the idea first the state and then the people take over ocne the state is deemed irrelevant?

More or less. The state sets it up, and then over time is no longer needed as people run it themselves.

It's why I generally make a distinction between communists, who believe in the real theories of communism and social justice, and the commies, who are more or less just fascists who use communism as a justification.