Strider said:
I owned and played the Werewolf book in WoD (I actually prefered playing Lupines).
The werewolves get alot of bonus's that vampires and alot of other creatures don't get. Faster healing rates, more damage, more special abilities. A single werewolf could rip threw even the toughest vampires quickly.
I am led to believe that a vampire that's been dead for a few good centuries should be able to take on a Lupine or two... But not a whole pack of them... The really ancient vampires can make short work of them. For instance, Vampires of clan Gangrel can learn a combination of their Fortitude Discipline and their Protean (=Shapechanging) Discipline that allows them to become invulnerable to any one type of claw/teeth/horn attack of their choice for one hour. This can allow even a pretty young Gangrel to put up a fair fight against a Lupine. Some Tremere Clan Cainites can, at a thought, lift a Lupine hundreds of yards into the air. And then set the Lupine on fire. In the air. At a thought. And then let them drop burning onto a sharp clff or something.
But yes, young vamps alone don't stand a chance.
On a slightly unrelated note, I'm working on a kinda fanfic-y WoD game called Elemental: the Chosen. It will have almost everything any other WoD game has. The essential premise of the game is that there are [iirc 20] Elements of Life. These include Entropy, Sex, Emotion, Metal, Water, Fire, Cold, Mortality, and some others. Every Element is a metaphysical manifestation of that which it represents. Based on the Facets things from Demon*, every Element is on some levels concious, sentient, and intelligent, and sometimes manifested as a god or other supernatural being (such as the Element of Earth being Mother Earth on some levels, with a very specific personality [she hates humanity xD].) Most Elements have Chosen Ones, people destined to represent one Element's interest (the only exception, iirc, is the Element of Vacuum, which strictly embodies non-existance and so has no physical manifestation whatsoever.) These Chosen Ones, the Elementals, are playable by the players (at least, 12 of the Elemental types are.) It's gonna be a hell of alot of work, and even though I'm making it nominally for a forum-based RPG I will be running (in Gamer.co.il, where I moderate) it should eventually be a fully playable RPG. If there are no copyright issues with it being based on White Wolf's old WoD, I may make an eBook out of it and distribute it online (for free of course.)
*Which says that basically reality exists on many levels, and in Paradise everything was multi-Faceted, thus a river was also a poem, a sword was also an argument in a debate, etc.)