The RoundTable

[cubsfan6506]

Is their some sort of rule that the most likely outcome has to occur that I'm un aware of? As Niklas said he was no attacking expecting to win. Just hoping to do damage. This would put you're precious mounted warrior out of submission for a while. The odds were slim that you're mounted warrior would walk away undamaged from it's confrontation. . .. .. .. . happens.

 

[Chamnix]

If Team Babe really thinks there has been foul play (I admit I don't know everything Babe knows, but as of now I definitely don't think there has been) then Babe should ask RegentMan/GingerAle to make a ruling. They have access to all the information (including Counsel's discussions and the save itself).

If the admins rule there has not been anything untoward, then Babe should accept that and move on. If I may quote the wise Wotan:

I actually would break a RL friendship if someone called me dishonourable and a liar without being able to show for a fact I was. Your reputation is everything, if someone call you a liar and dishonourable for whatever reason it risk sticking and eventually none can separate truth from fiction. That is why I object so strongly even if it is "only a game".

You better be damn sure about yourselves before you start throwing around accusations like that in a public forum.

 

[Whomp]

We've already asked the admins to look at the save but there's no way to prove a reload.

 

[Empiremaker]

Is there some Admin feature like they use on the SGOTM or GOTM to find out the number of reloads?

Disclaimer: I have not played in either the SGOTM and GOTM

Whomp: on saying "reload".

 

[Ginger_Ale]

I am not sure exactly how to go about finding the number of reloads. I think it involves the use of a hex editor or something (which I know nothing about).

Let's face it - we've all played games where the luck has been against us. It's human nature to call it unfair when we lose battles we should win, but when those same battles go our way, we don't call for a more equal RNG. Seeing as this hasn't been occurring in a pattern that cannot be explained by the RNG alone, I don't see it as much of a problem yet. If it grows, regardless of team, sure, we can investigate.

For now, there's no reason to accuse other teams of foul play.

 

[Whomp]

I am not sure exactly how to go about finding the number of reloads. I think it involves the use of a hex editor or something (which I know nothing about).

Maybe you don't understand the hex editor but would you be adverse if I asked two people who might?

 

[Chamnix]

There is no way to prove a reload, but there are enough quotes like these

And I can't state publically why attacking with him was a good idea, that would give the BABEs too much info.

I could tell you my reasoning, but then I'd have to silence you.

It will all be clear when you can read our forum. There is indeed a rational explanation, but you'd have to know quite a lot about our situation over the last three turns or so to be able to guess it

that a neutral party looking at the Council's forums should have a much better idea of the truth than anyone outside their forums.

You've asked an admin to review, he has, and he determined that there isn't a problem. I suggest Team Babe stop slinging mud unless they know something Ginger_Ale doesn't.

 

[cubsfan6506]

Maybe you don't understand the hex editor but would you be adverse if I asked two people who might?

What else could be found out from hex editing?

 

[AutomatedTeller]

now i need 10 letters...

 

[General_W]

Unbelievable.
I, for one, would welcome the hex edit checks.
I will also welcome the repentant apology that would no doubt follow.

But what do I know? I’m not accustomed to calling people cheaters when a couple die rolls don’t go my way.
First it’s cheating to block your coast, now it’s apparently also cheating to win a 27% odds battle. I shudder to think what nefarious means the eventually winning team will use to acquire their ill-gotten victory. A cheater cultural victory? Or that old cheater standby, the space ship?

 

[Elephantium]

Maybe you don't understand the hex editor but would you be adverse if I asked two people who might?

*sigh*

What is it with people on Internet forums using "adverse" where "averse" is clearly the right word for the situation?

 

[cubsfan6506]

I would like the council to talk to the people doing the hex edit checks first. I would also like to be assured no other info can be gootne out of hex editing.

 

[Elephantium]

Unbelievable.
I, for one, would welcome the hex edit checks.
I will also welcome the repentant apology that would no doubt follow.

But what do I know? I’m not accustomed to calling people cheaters when a couple die rolls don’t go my way.

Aww, don't be so hard on the BABEs. They're understandably and that they took such a harsh blow immediately upon landing, and they want to make sure that everything is on the up-and-up, I'm sure


Everyone, please repeat after me: "It's only a game. It's only a game. It's only a game."

Got it? Now keep repeating after me:

"Learn the difference between lose and loose, between to and too, and between averse and adverse. These things are far more important than the results of a Civ3 battle."

 

[cubsfan6506]

Its only the most important thing ever. Its only the most important thing ever. Its only the most important thing ever.

 

[Elephantium]

*sigh*

I guess I couldn't expect anything more from a Cubs fan

 

[General_W]

they want to make sure that everything is on the up-and-up, I'm sure

And a PM to the admins to check our forum would have been a perfectly acceptable, if still paranoid and mistrustful, way of checking into it.
Not that I'm even sure I know what "it" is.

Precisely because this IS “just a game” it’s upsetting to me when people resort to accusations of cheating over a bad RNG roll.

I mean, why do these BABEers think there’s a smiley on CivFantaics??? It's because that happens sometimes.
Sure it’s upsetting to be on the tank end, but it’s certainly not sufficient grounds to start slinging accusations of “cheater” around in a friendly game.

Anyway... [ /]

 

[Elephantium]

Just out of curiosity, General_W, is that horse from one of your A-Cavs or from a BABE MW?

 

[General_W]

It's dead... so that'd make it a former BABE Mounted Warrior

 

[denyd]

To paraphrase from one of my favorite movies:

Vizzini(Babe): WE LOST A UNIT? INCONCEIVABLE
Inigo (everyone else): You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

 

[Cyc]

Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't we post about something other than how useless this tired conversation is. When you people get your panties bunched up, you like to keep 'em like that, huh? Just walk away. No one has to prove anything.