The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Thread on the Subject of Extraterrestrial Life

[insurgent]

Is there life out there? Are we alone?

I say there must be other civilisations than ours. With the Universe so, litteraly, indescribably huge and our knowledge so amazingly limited, why shouldn't there somewhere else have arisen something else? Why should we be unique, when there must be millions of planets with Earth-like conditions? It seems unlikely to me, and to most scientists on the subject.

Share your thoughts, please...

 

[NY Hoya]

I suspect they are out there, somewhere. I doubt we will find them or that they will find us, at least in our lifetimes. Hopefully we can find evidence of some sort of life on Mars or on one of the moons of Jupiter/Saturn. If any life exists elsewhere, I have to believe that intelligent life exists as well.

 

[NY Hoya]

grrr double post

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by NY Hoya
I suspect they are out there, somewhere. I doubt we will find them or that they will find us, at least in our lifetimes. Hopefully we can find evidence of some sort of life on Mars or on one of the moons of Jupiter/Saturn. If any life exists elsewhere, I have to believe that intelligent life exists as well.

Same for me. It is just unlikely that we are the only ones.

 

[Lucky]

The poll is not really well enough formulated.

How do you define "intelligent"? Is mankind intelligent when the biggest goal is to invent even better methods to eradicate itself?

The real question though is, can we compare our intelligence to that of any other race?
I believe not.

Not to mention the impossibility to really interact with ET life, at least if our current theoretical knowledge about the universe is correct.

But yes, there is life out there.

 

[IceBlaZe]

I would guess so.

 

[Zwelgje]

The universe is so big and the occurence of life and even intelligent life is merely a process of chance it would be strange if we were living on the only planet containing (intelligent) life. So, sure there is life elsewhere.

 

[Switch625]

I believe there is sentient life elsewhere in the universe. I also believe that we'll never know for sure, because we'll never meet them. Science fiction is fun (Babylon 5 is best ), but it's entirely possible we are the only sentient life forms in this whole galaxy. And even if there are any others in our galaxy, the odds that they are close enough to be able to contact us are so vanishingly slim as to be not worth bothering with.

 

[Soviet beast]

I would bet that we humans were planted here by aliens. I also believe that nt7 was aimed at earth by aliens wishing to take over our planet. It would save us from our depressing future where air is breathed through filtering machines and pleasure comes from holograms. yes.. life is indeed pointless.

 

[insurgent]

Okay, you pretty much agree, but I don't think we will meet them either. The nearest star to the sun is 4 lightyears away and any signals, not to mention objects, would be at least four years old before reaching the other side, and then that's just the closest star. Odds are that life are to be found elsewhere, not in the Alfa Centauri system.
But how should and would we react to alien lifeforms, perhaps even our Earth? Would we fight them?

 

[Hamlet]

I'm sure 'ET' is out there, but I don't believe anyone is 'visiting' this planet.

 

[stormerne]

"So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!"
- from The Galaxy Song, Monty Python's Flying Circus

 

[insurgent]

Bought a cd called Monty Python Sings with all their songs on, the Galaxy one is hilarious, and the movie much more so. I must be the biggest Python fan on Earth... May be not in the Galaxy...

 

[Scrimshaw]

I believe there is intelligent life out there, But I don't think we will ever find it because of the vast distances and our current technology. Our only hope is they find us and they may have.

I think it's quite possible that in the 70 billion years the universe has existed some other species existed that and it could have had a LONG time to advance enough to cover the galaxy or more. Keep in mind mankind has only really advanced at all in the last 5,000-10,000 years. What could we do with a billion if we survive long enough?

I think it may even be possible that we can't explore any uninhabited planets in space because they could ALL be occupied now. If any alien races are anything like humanity they could do alot of expanding in a few million years.

We don't know if it's true or not but we could be getting into space pretty late in the game. Might be busy out there.

 

[insurgent]

Aren't there any of the religious people in this forum (I know they exist from the numerous bible threads) that will say what they think? Surely the Bible says, in a sense, that the Earth and the humans are alone?

 

[Homie]

I am one of those religious people. Hey. I voted option nr.2 although I am very uncertain so I just picked one. No reason really. But when I read your posts (I like voting before being influenced by the posts) I remembered having this discussion with people that believed there were no ET, and I was arguing that there was ET, using exactly the same arguments that have been used in this thread.

I don't know why you (insurgent) thinks that the Bible says there can be no ET, if it says so I sure haven't read it.

Anyway, I was surprised that so many (100% before me, 21 votes) voted that there is intelligent life outside of earth. Just a couple of decades ago the votes would be quite the opposite, times sure do change.

So what do you guys think about the UFO sightings and abductions, most of them real or fake, or all of them fake?

 

[insurgent]

All of the sightings and abductions must be fake.

The First Book of Moses: Called Genesis

1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl
of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over
every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created
he him; male and female created he them.

1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every
living thing that moveth upon the earth.

1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which
is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air,
and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is
life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was
very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of
them.

2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and
he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

There's certainly no mentioning of life outside the planet and there is certainly no indication of it in Genesis.

ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg/etext90/kjv10.txt

 

[Homie]

There certainly isn't any mention of life outside of Earth. That does not mean God did not create life elsewhere, it just means that IF he did, he...

1: Wouldn't want us to know of it. (Keep the worlds apart)
2: Wouldn't want us to know of it at that time. (Maybe it then would lead to worshipping of the "life beyond the stars" (the aliens) which is a sin))
3: Maybe they were created later. In the story of Noah God says that he regretted creating the humans, he said this because humans are dumb and sinful. Maybe he then decided to create more intelligent life.
4:Left it out because the humans with their limited knowledge of the Universe would not understand it.
5:Or he simply didn't create ET. We are the only ones intelligent in the Universe.

I simply dunno, there should have been an option for the undecided.

I haven't seen the hitchhiker, is it any good?

 

[insurgent]

Okay, but would the other life on the other planets then not be shaped like humans, because he obviously had a tendency to create life in his own image, right? Still the seven days of creation really lacks time for him creating any thing more than the Earth (and I would say he already had a pretty tight schedule...).

No, there is no option for the undecided, because it always strikes me as stupid that there are such. If you don't care, know or whatever, then you shouldn't vote, or at least wait and vote when you do know... But obviously you do care, know etc...

 

[Homie]

Maybe they would be shaped like humans, maybe not. "Created in his image" - what does that mean? Surely God does not have to be in physical form? Maybe the human body is his favorite form. Or maybe it means something completely different, I mean, maybe it is not referring to appearence.

HE has all the time in the world (so to speak) because time is nothing to God. In the Bible it says that a second to God is like a 1000 years and a 1000 years is like a second to God.

No, there is no option for the undecided, because it always strikes me as stupid that there are such. If you don't care, know or whatever, then you shouldn't vote, or at least wait and vote when you do know...

Well actually i agree with you there, mostly anyway. What I meant is people like me that do not at all exclude ET but am not certain that there is ET either. The possibility is certainly there but I am not convinced beyond a doubt that there is ET. (But that would be sort of a long option, forget about it )