The Worst UU!

[thetrooper]

@Corkmaster: what are the stats for the Drug Dealer?

 

[Aegis]

Actually old chaps; The British marine is of course as good as a US one any day.

The individual British marine may be as good as a US one any day, however as an organization, no other organization with an amphibious assault doctrine can even come close to matching what the US Marines have accomplished.

I say this with all due respect to the USMC's British counterparts, but they just have not had the same impact on history that US Marines have.

 

[rbis4rbb]

lol @ F-15 getting a runaway win

 

[Dreadnought]

The individual British marine may be as good as a US one any day, however as an organization, no other organization with an amphibious assault doctrine can even come close to matching what the US Marines have accomplished.

I say this with all due respect to the USMC's British counterparts, but they just have not had the same impact on history that US Marines have.

Exactly! There have been great British amphibious assults, but the US Marine's are much more well know

Edit: My 300th post

 

[LLXerxes]

Alot of them are useless.
The Keshik might be less shields, but it has a smaller ADM then it's normal unit.
The Enkidu warrior might be like a cheaper spearmen, but it's not all that when you think about it.
Never tried the F-15, but it 5UCk5!!!!1!!
The Russian Cossack is almost worthless, but in C3C, it has blitz capabilities...

 

[RegentMan]

The keshik also can pass over hills and mountains with no movement penalties; they treat them as grassland.

The enkidu warrior is only ten shields and has two defense. The strongest unit defensively in the ancient age (save the Greek hoplite), and enemy will have a hard time taking a city when you're just pumping these defenders out.

I've already argued my heart out for the F-15.

Vannila's/PTW's cossack: simply being on a hill gives it a better chance of beating an attacking cavalry. 4 defense + 50% bonus equals 6 defense. Add in any rivers, fortifying, etc. and you have a powerhouse attacker that can defend against its lesser counterparts surprisingly well.

Conquests' cossack: blitz abilitly. 'Nuff said.

 

[TomeTraveler]

@Corkmaster: what are the stats for the Drug Dealer?

A Drug Dealer should be a 0-0-1 unit with a couple special properties:

* Each Dealer within two squares of a city involuntarily converts one citizen from working the map to entertainer, and the conversion remains until the Dealer is out of range.

* Whenever a Dealer loses a combat, it has a 1 in 3 chance of reappearing the next turn, in a random location within 2 squares of where it died.

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As for the worst UU, I'd have to say the Egyptian and Hittite chariots--unless you're playing in an area with no rough terrains, half the map is off limits, which sort of cancels out the benefits of their movement.

 

[tR1cKy]

Drug dealer: nice idea! Alas, such a unit is impossible with the current game engine

 

[greenman1234]

tometraveler, you have issues. children play civ 3 you cant have a drug dealer in it. thats immoral!

 

[777]

Ansar Warrior

 

[RegentMan]

Why the ansar warrior?

 

[jonnyincognito]

I just wish Civ IV would come up with early aviation. I'd love to see a Sopwith Camel going up against the German's Fokker Tri (and on the ground Big Berthas and even observation balloons - or how about a good old WWI gas attack!) Then, a little later, the Brits could upgrade to the Spitfire and the the Germans to the Messerschmidt.

Then, you could have the new American UU: The P-51 Mustang! Cadillac of the Skies!
(Although I still think the best American UU would be the Kentucky Rifleman 5.3.3. with a coonskin cap and a long rifle).

Don't forget about bombers of WWI then too...Zepplins and Gothas, and then the American UU could be the Lighter then Aircraft Carrier! http://www.geocities.com/usarmyaviationdigest/airborneaircraftcarriers.htm

Show me a diffrent country that tried that. Or how about the Goblin jet? Designed to be carried in a bomber as it's own escort...nevermind that it was a dismal failure, crashing into the carrier test plane on trying to hook up...


Joshua

 

[jonnyincognito]

Can't agree there. In most games, the suicide galley effort starts at Map Making, and succeeds at the latest around Theology. If you wait until Astronomy to make contact with the other continent, it's already too late. You're missing out on the brokering chances of most of the middle ages, and some more advanced AIs may have Navigation already.

The carrack is just a transport with an extra useless attack point. It is no better than the unit that it replaces.

Isn't that what most UUs are? The same unit they replace with at most one or two points in ADM or a special trick like enslave? The UU's were probably designed to give you a small edge, no unbalance the game, when you built them. More for flavor then anything else I'd think...

tometraveler, you have issues. children play civ 3 you cant have a drug dealer in it. thats immoral!

Yeah, because wiping out another CIV from the face of the imaginary game planet isn't immoral

Joshua

 

[Tomoyo]

Why the ansar warrior?

Because he doesn't think speed is important and he has probably had some personal bad experience.

 

[RegentMan]

Because he doesn't think speed is important and he has probably had some personal bad experience.

That's what I figured. A cheap three move knight is deadly, even with two defense.

 

[MidnightRambler]

the mongols had the largest continual empire the world has ever seen, and they didnt get there by 'treating mountain tiles like grassland'

keshik = worst UU

 

[RegentMan]

the mongols had the largest continual empire the world has ever seen, and they didnt get there by 'treating mountain tiles like grassland'

keshik = worst UU

I totally know what you mean. America has had more than Lincoln as a leader. Same for everyone else. Russia went Communist for most of the 1900's, but it doesn't always happen in this game. Rome rarely rises and falls, France can build the pyramids... it's as if Civ III is a game or something!

I'm glad that you pinpointed the reason why something in Civ III sucks.

 

[MeteorPunch]

the mongols had the largest continual empire the world has ever seen, and they didnt get there by 'treating mountain tiles like grassland'

keshik = worst UU

yeah, but it only cost them 60 shields

 

[Tomoyo]

And it didn't require any iron...

 

[777]

Because he doesn't think speed is important and he has probably had some personal bad experience.

Though mobility is the key, I find 3 defense more important and chinese have 4/3/3 rider so it's quite useles.