These Fractured States of America - Development Thread

[NateDawg2350]

Hey. I really like the ideas behind this mod. I am having a major problem, though. I can't play beyond about a dozen turns before it crashes to desk top. I've attached a file from a few turns before the crash. Can any one help me out? I've tried it with a couple of different civs and different settings; I'm still crashing before I hardly begin. Thanks for the help.

 

[OzzyKP]

Yea, I know. Navy Seal said he is looking into it.

The mod is still in the very, very early stages of development. In the public version I haven't yet added units or techs or buildings at all. Just civs & leaders. So hopefully the crash can be figured out and I can get a better version uploaded for y'all. I'm working on figuring out the tech tree right now.

 

[deanej]

Why are there duplicates of the ini file, Civ4DiplomacyInfos, Civ4ArtDefinesCivilization, and Civ4ArtDefinesLeaderHead? I would expect these to be the cause of the crashing from what I've looked at it.

 

[OzzyKP]

Hmm, in the copy I've got here there is only one of each of those (though the .ini is negated with a .bak at the end) and it still has the same crash.

I've got another crash problem though now. I've added a few more things (units, techs, etc) and deleted quite a lot (techs, buildings, etc). Now I get a CtD upon loading the mod. No pop-ups either, just crash right away. (there used to be lots of pop-ups, but I fixed those).

Anyone interested in helping?

It still has the crash problem of the older version (when you open world builder or play a few turns), but at least with the older version you could load the mod and look around the civilopedia. My newer version doesn't even do that.

 

[lamppost4]

Are you sure you did not delete a line or file that you did not mean to delete or accidentally rename something? I would check for that if I were you.
And maybe, you might have something funny with the gamecore.dll as strange as that may sound. Try a different one and see if that works.

 

[OzzyKP]

I've deleted lots and lots of lines, heh, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work...

Sure I got lots and lots of error messages when the XML freaked out over the things I deleted, but I took care of most/all of them. Now it crashes mysteriously with no messages.

 

[asioasioasio]

1. Use old Artdef file and add new units/buildings art-defs.
2. Fix the events xml file.

 

[OzzyKP]

Fix the events file, how?

 

[asioasioasio]

Remove events (There's two files that are responsible for events (Folder XML/Events)
Probably there are events that uses units/buildings/techs/whatever that you deleted.

The second problem of crashing without message might be missing Artdef.

For example you've added new unit UNIT_HEAVY_ARTILERRY, maded in unitsinfosx.xm; ARTDEF_UNIT_HEAVY_ARTILERRY, but you forgot adding ARTDEF_UNIT_HEAVY_ARTILERRY in artdefs,xml

 

[The Navy Seal]

I found your problem; in the begin team area you had it like this

BeginTeam
	ContactWithTeam=0
	RevealMap=0
EndTeam

It should have looked like this.

BeginTeam
	TeamID=0
	ContactWithTeam=0
	RevealMap=0
EndTeam

As you can see you forgot to put the "teamID= (whatever team number).

Here's the fixed version! . I can't wait until Zebra 9 gets his map editor out that way we won't have to deal with these silly little errors!

 

[OzzyKP]

Oh, that isn't the error I was talking about. I've redone the map anyhow.

When you start a game with the mod, even if you use a random map, it crashes when you open world builder.

 

[OzzyKP]

Remove events (There's two files that are responsible for events (Folder XML/Events)
Probably there are events that uses units/buildings/techs/whatever that you deleted.

The second problem of crashing without message might be missing Artdef.

For example you've added new unit UNIT_HEAVY_ARTILERRY, maded in unitsinfosx.xm; ARTDEF_UNIT_HEAVY_ARTILERRY, but you forgot adding ARTDEF_UNIT_HEAVY_ARTILERRY in artdefs,xml

Ok, no missing artdef as far as I can tell. I trimmed things a lot, but everything in unitinfo is in artdefs.

I'm fairly lost... it has been months and I've hardly gotten started on this damn mod because everything I do crashes... *sigh*.

I get this error: "GFC Error: fails to initialize the primary control theme"

If someone could take a look at it I'd be permanently indebted to you:

http://www.oneandfour.org/FracturedStates-BetaNew.rar

 

[lamppost4]

Ok, no missing artdef as far as I can tell. I trimmed things a lot, but everything in unitinfo is in artdefs.

I'm fairly lost... it has been months and I've hardly gotten started on this damn mod because everything I do crashes... *sigh*.

I get this error: "GFC Error: fails to initialize the primary control theme"

If someone could take a look at it I'd be permanently indebted to you:

http://www.oneandfour.org/FracturedStates-BetaNew.rar

I definitely admire your percerverence throughout this whole thing.

 

[OzzyKP]

I just wish I had more help.

Every other mod out there seems to have a team of people working on it. I really don't know what I'm doing and everything I try messes up.

But with all my failures at XML, at the very least I put together a decent map:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265646

So maybe by 2012 I'll have this thing finished...

 

[deanej]

Since you have a theme, this HAS to be put in C:\Program Files\... and not My Games\.... Otherwise you get the crash you describe.

Again, any reason for duplicate files? For example, you have Civ4CivilizationInfos and then you have Civ4CivilizationInfos_Mod.

 

[OzzyKP]

I put it in Program Files. And no reason for the duplicate files. Just sloppiness.

 

[lamppost4]

Maybe you should try and create a new thread for just this problem. You might get more attention to it this way because right now you are probably just getting people who are interested in the mod as a whole, not the problem.

 

[OzzyKP]

Well most of the problem seems to stem from me trying to start from scratch. I created a new thread (maybe more than one) asking for just some blank XML files, but no responses...

 

[Shiggs713]

if you want some xml help, adding units, buildings, or whatever PM me with details.

 

[OzzyKP]

Well can you send me your most updated files for Civil War? I'm thinking my mod may be too broken to continue with, I should just try to make my changes to a working mod. And since there is plenty of overlap anyhow, yours would be the best to start with.