Things that exist only in your mind

[AceChilla]

Is love real?

Most of the people on this planet will say it is.

Yet it is no more then a hormones effecting the neural pattern in your brain. It all happens inside your head, so you can't prove that the phenomenon love truly exist.

Is God real?

Some people say it isn't.

But the feeling there is a God and he helps you just as well releases hormones and changes your neural patterns and way of thinking. So isn't God just as real as love?

Isn't it so that it's either just an illusion or both just as real? Or isn't it?

EDIT- I thought about this when reading the topic "what is love" btw. But it's not the same topic.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Love isn't supposed to exist outside our heads. God, in any traditional religious interpretation, is.

A more sensible comparison is love and religious experiences. Clearly, both exist.

 

[classical_hero]

I say mind over matter. And you know the rest.

 

[Turner]

Of course there are things that exist only in my mind. I don't believe love is one of them. Nor god, but that's fodder for another thread.

Worlds, universes even, that exist soley in my mind. Maybe someday I'll let them out. Stories to tell, that kind of thing.

 

[AceChilla]

Love isn't supposed to exist outside our heads. God, in any traditional religious interpretation, is.

A more sensible comparison is love and religious experiences. Clearly, both exist.

So if there is a religion that states that his God does not exist in the outside world like in heaven. But their God does exist in the mind of their followers. Than that religion is true? Because their God obviously exist.

 

[The Last Conformist]

So if there is a religion that states that his God does not exist in the outside world like in heaven. But their God does exist in the mind of their followers. Than that religion is true? Because their God obviously exist.

What does it mean for a religions to be true? If the existence of it's object of worship is enough, then yes, that would be a true religion. So would sun-worship.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Is love real?

Most of the people on this planet will say it is.

Yet it is no more then a hormones effecting the neural pattern in your brain. It all happens inside your head, so you can't prove that the phenomenon love truly exist.

Love is real. Whether it's caused by your testicles or not, doesn't really alter the fact.

 

[punkbass2000]

Everything exists in my mind

 

[stratego]

So isn't God just as real as love?

Yes.

Love is real
and God is real
and Love is Love
therefore God is Love
God is almighty
and Love conquers all.
So Love and God is the same thing
Without Love there is no God
and without God there is no Love.

 

[Perfection]

Sure, such itmes are called "concepts" and "ideas" they certainly are real.

There, of course, a whole lot of illogical abuses for this truth. And if anyone starts spoutin' one, I'll show him a thing or two.

 

[RoddyVR]

Everything exists in my mind

Liar!!!! Blasphemer!!!
everything exists in MY mind. and if you dont believe me, i'll turn the whole thing off, and then we'll see how you feel about it.

 

[doolally]

-gender and personality are the top two, i'd say.

 

[stratego]

-gender and personality are the top two, i'd say.

How is gender something that exist in the mind. You either have balls or you don't.

 

[QuoVadisNation]

Our conception of stability.

 

[doolally]

How is gender something that exist in the mind. You either have balls or you don't.

-that's your sex. gender is performative. we 'perform' masculine, and perform femininine based on a series of coded behaviours we learn. take a look at a bunch of pubescent italian/american males on a street corner and you'll see how much their performance of masculinity is influenced by Robert DeNiro or Al Pacino or the guy from the Sopranos or their familial Patriarchs.

-there are dominant social standards for masculinity and femininity and we all put on some degree of performance to fit into them.

-gender is neither genetic nor fixed.

[edit: for sme ltters left out]

 

[The Last Conformist]

I disagree with that to a considerable extent, but this isn't the thread to discuss it.

 

[doolally]

I disagree with that to a considerable extent, but this isn't the thread to discuss it.

-sure. everyone is free to disagree. especially if you're a social scientist who has actually studied it.

-oh, the best book i've seen on the subject is 'Gender Trouble' by Judith Butler. if anyone is interested.

 

[The Last Conformist]

(I'm not a social scientist. I've read some on the subject, tho, and come to the conclusion that social scientists are often overly quick to conclude things are socially conditioned.)

 

[Narz]

Hot, cold, taste, tacticle sensation... all exist only in the mind. Are you going to deny their exsistance?

The feeling of love creates biological changes in the body and brain just the same as hot or cold, thirst or hunger, and as anyone who claims to have been "in love" will tell you, love often overrides most other "imaginary" sensations such as the aforementioned.

 

[punkbass2000]

Liar!!!! Blasphemer!!!
everything exists in MY mind. and if you dont believe me, i'll turn the whole thing off, and then we'll see how you feel about it.

Alright, you can stay