Respect to those of you who managed 100+ hours before realising CiV was not for them. Once I finally got the game working (can't run in fullscreen on my 2560x1600 monitor), I managed a 5 hour session, a 2 hour session armed with advice from CivFanatics and few half-hearted starts. I can't get over the fact the terrain doesn't seem to matter (hence city placement is irrelevent), I can't build roads everywhere (so movement is tedious), the buildings are largely irrelevent etc. The CS just piss me off, but I can't ignore them. CiV just bores me. I've never thought about what it is I enjoy about Civ IV, but I'M A BUILDER AND I'M PROUD. I've played more Civ IV BTS this weekend just past than I have played CiV total. I've set a calendar appointment for 1 years time to remind me to try it again (I hope the Steam doomsayers are proven wrong & I can still play it!). I'm enjoying the recently released BloodBowl (Legendary edition), and I think for my Civ fix I'll try the 'Rise of Man' mod mentioned above. Good luck and best wishes to all the people who do like CiV - you bug test & balance test it to death so I can play the new improved CiV next year.