This may sound mean but..

so we delete 330000 posts, then we are no longer a community but a bunch of people who are selective on who joins the group. I rember a guy in history who did that. IF we deleted those posters that would be like genocide and suicide for CFC as it would alienate people
 
It seems to me that your sole reason for wanting to do this is to free-up user account names. Not a big deal - why have that philosophy on this site when most of the rest of the internet doens't bother? First-in, first served. <shrug>

Whilst CFC does have a godd name in the civ community now, if they had the philosophy of just periodically deleting lurker accounts, do you think that the likes of Firaxis would be so keen to come here and joing in chats etc? No - CFC would be way down the priority queue behind the likes of 'poly with their 30,000+ members!

In your 'good' for the a/c deletions, I think that the first point is the only point: The second is irrelevant (as its search related, not a simple a/c number problem - and who (apart from mods) want to search for users anyway :confused: , and the third, IMHO is a 'bad', for the reason I mentioned before.
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Ainwood, good point, but I still think that it would be better to delete the 0 post accounts.

Meanwhile Fionn is still over there in never land. Fionn, for the last time... I want the accounts with 0 posts to be deleted!! Not a single account with atleast one post will be deleted!!!
 
couldnt have said it any better myself.

sigh- deleting posters even with 0 posts isnt good. that shows we are being selective, which we are not. As ainwood said Foiraxis wouldnt even bother with us if we were jerks like that.

I really dont understand why you are like this Strider its kind of a useless argument as i highly doubt you could drum up the support to get this approved.
 
Originally posted by ainwood
It seems to me that your sole reason for wanting to do this is to free-up user account names. Not a big deal - why have that philosophy on this site when most of the rest of the internet doens't bother? First-in, first served. <shrug>

Whilst CFC does have a godd name in the civ community now, if they had the philosophy of just periodically deleting lurker accounts, do you think that the likes of Firaxis would be so keen to come here and joing in chats etc? No - CFC would be way down the priority queue behind the likes of 'poly with their 30,000+ members!

In your 'good' for the a/c deletions, I think that the first point is the only point: The second is irrelevant (as its search related, not a simple a/c number problem - and who (apart from mods) want to search for users anyway :confused: , and the third, IMHO is a 'bad', for the reason I mentioned before.
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Ok, on a debate term. I am not suggesting periodically deleting "lurker" accounts. I am suggesting this one time delete and possibly if it is suggested and accepted in 4-5 yrs. again then there be deleted again.

Also, on the first come first serve thing, tell me what would you say if you (stay with me here) Bought this game called Civ3 a few years back. You've played and love the game and try to find a place where you can discuss it with other people. You go searching and find this site called CivFanatics, you try to register for there forums only to find that the name you want is already registered, so you try another name... already registered, try another name, and that one is registered also. After several tries you finally find a nickname, one that you don't really like at all, but you really to to post on this site. Well, you post for a few months an get a good 400 posts and decide to look up the orginal username you wanted, only to find that it was someone who registered in 2001 and has yet to post, ever.

Now, wouldn't you be slightly upset (I said slightly ;)) to find out that the name you really wanted was already taken by someone who registered to prolly use the search feature once or twice and then has never returned? While your stuck here with a crappy nickname that you put together just because you REALLY wanted to talk about a game you like.

Also, Alot of people after one or two unsuccessful tries at registering are likely to go look for another site, possibly poly. Which is one member CFC lose's, and poly gains.

And on the note about the Member search's, I have used it several times to find certain members (also went through a pointless search looking for my own nickname once.), but I think the clearing out the birthdays in the calander section is much more important. We could possibly actually have something USEFUL in the Calander instead of just birthdays. Possibly, post release dates for new Civ3 patch's, GOTM's, and other thing's. Which with all the birthday's flooding the calander now, would be hard to do.
 
i dont even use the calendar nor have i met anyone that does, aside from you :). I could care less. But what this does sound like is a lobby to delete posters just cuz someone might be slighted over a poster that has 0 posts and has the name he wanted. big deal, life sucks get over it.
 
Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
i dont even use the calendar nor have i met anyone that does, aside from you :). I could care less. But what this does sound like is a lobby to delete posters just cuz someone might be slighted over a poster that has 0 posts and has the name he wanted. big deal, life sucks get over it.

I don't think anybody really use's CFC's poor excuse for a calandar, but I would if it actually had some useful information on it, like I said maybe patch release date's etc.
 
you can get that thru announcments or by reading the main page strider. next reason and it better be good
 
Originally posted by Strider


Ok, on a debate term. I am not suggesting periodically deleting "lurker" accounts. I am suggesting this one time delete and possibly if it is suggested and accepted in 4-5 yrs. again then there be deleted again.

Also, on the first come first serve thing, tell me what would you say if you (stay with me here) Bought this game called Civ3 a few years back. You've played and love the game and try to find a place where you can discuss it with other people. You go searching and find this site called CivFanatics, you try to register for there forums only to find that the name you want is already registered, so you try another name... already registered, try another name, and that one is registered also. After several tries you finally find a nickname, one that you don't really like at all, but you really to to post on this site. Well, you post for a few months an get a good 400 posts and decide to look up the orginal username you wanted, only to find that it was someone who registered in 2001 and has yet to post, ever.

Now, wouldn't you be slightly upset (I said slightly ;)) to find out that the name you really wanted was already taken by someone who registered to prolly use the search feature once or twice and then has never returned? While your stuck here with a crappy nickname that you put together just because you REALLY wanted to talk about a game you like.

Not as annoyed as I would be if I had 400 posts, then the user-name that I wanted became 'free', but I couldn't change to it.

And certainly not as annoyed as if I was the site admin, and had to deal with hundreds of people who want to change to the names that had become freed-up.

And not as annoyed as the people who had come to know which poster was which; their traits and personallities, and suddenly had to cope with different a/c names. Ditto for the mods who rely on 'knowing' posters to mod in a consistent manner.


Also, Alot of people after one or two unsuccessful tries at registering are likely to go look for another site, possibly poly. Which is one member CFC lose's, and poly gains.
'Poly doesn't purge member accounts either, AFAIK, and many people who register here and are regulars here are already members at 'poly; many with the same user name, so they would have the same problem. :p
 
Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
you can get that thru announcments or by reading the main page strider. next reason and it better be good

That has got to be the worst comeback ever, Fionn. Ok, sit down and listen up, I'll go through this again for you.

First off, no matter how much you want to twist my words around. It's as simple as this: I am NOT saying "screw the lurkers, cause they don't matter." I've suggested this before and I'll post it once again. The Best thing to do would be to post an announcement, a main page post, or an e-mail notification to all users for they know either "Hey, I still want to be part of this. I'll pop-in make one post and I'll be fine." or "CFC? What the heck is that? I never signed up for that, oh well." An e-mail notification might even make some of them active posters, or atleast small contributors to CFC. You are thinking of only the bad and not thinking a single thing of what "good" might become of this. An e-mail notification might remind some people that they signed up here and make them come back. While others it might remind them, but there interest is completely gone and decide to let there account be deleted. Making just ONE simple post is not asking for much, 2 minutes at the most half the time, and then they continue there lurking all they want.

Not only that, but there are the other bonus's that I've already pointed out. Freeing up used name's for future users. Sure, your saying that I'm saying "Screw The Lurkers." Well, what about he future members that are going to register? By time the Civ4 member rush comes on every single good & bad name will be taken and instead were be having posters called 6742910 or just random letters typed in that make no sense at all. My point being, were going to have to do some type of clean-up sooner or later, as this site is going to be around for a VERY long time.

Another bonus would be the calander bonus I posted also. Think about this: If we delete all the accounts that will clean up the calander birthday list nicely. Then we could possibly have a calander that fits onto the User CP that would (hopefully) be slgihtly editable (maybe beable to add your own personal appointments and stuff on there) and will also contain important dates, like patch release's.

Now, onto your defense's. Firaxis not coming here anymore is more of an empty insult than anything else. They'd either not even see it at all, or wouldn't care either way. They come here, to SEE THE POSTS. This is the largest Civcommunity and though we might not have the most members after this, we will have the same amount of active members, and the quality will be the same. Firaxis will have no reason to leave for somewhere else.

Your other defense being that it is rude to just "delete" someone else's account, and you keep persisting in this even though I told you a million times that we won't just delete it without telling them. As I pointed out above, it would not be that hard to post one, or even that hard to re-register after it is delete, whichever one they prefer. Also, As it is likely to take many months to delete all of them, they have plenty of a notice. If the person doesn't take any action to save there account by then, then they prolly don't want it anymore, and it's safe to delete it. I'm not saying we just go in here and start deleting a ton of accounts, I'm saying we should atleast ask them, in a indirect way "Hey, you haven't made a single post here yet, do you still want your account here or do you want us to delete it?"

Right now, the way your making it sound is as if I want TF and the mods to go through and just start deleting the accounts without a care as to the owners. No, I am not saying that. Sure, I would rather not pretty much have to say "If you want to keep your account you have to post," but as it is not that much of a hard thing to do to keep the account (espicially sense anyone who cares would prolly already visit the site anyway and is already registered).

Edit: Fixed some spelling mistakes.... 4,000 character post.... Did hit 15,000, but I took 2 paragraphs out. (the long one's) as I don't think they were really on-topic.
 
Originally posted by ainwood


Not as annoyed as I would be if I had 400 posts, then the user-name that I wanted became 'free', but I couldn't change to it.

And certainly not as annoyed as if I was the site admin, and had to deal with hundreds of people who want to change to the names that had become freed-up.

And not as annoyed as the people who had come to know which poster was which; their traits and personallities, and suddenly had to cope with different a/c names. Ditto for the mods who rely on 'knowing' posters to mod in a consistent manner.

'Poly doesn't purge member accounts either, AFAIK, and many people who register here and are regulars here are already members at 'poly; many with the same user name, so they would have the same problem. :p

Both good points Ainwood, but as most of the already registered users already have a post or two, they should be forced to keep it. :rolleyes: (alittle harsher then I really wanted that to sound)
 
Strider, why are you so worked up about this?
 
Originally posted by superslug
Strider, why are you so worked up about this?

I'm not really worked up, as I pointed out above... praticing for my Debate Class. :rolleyes: Figure I might beable to get a few bonus points by showing my teacher this link also. (hopefully)

Edit: This is prolly not the best place to do this, but I have come onto several interesting "side-subjects" which has made this discussion slightly interesting.
 
Originally posted by Strider
I'm not really worked up, as I pointed out above... praticing for my Debate Class. :rolleyes: Figure I might beable to get a few bonus points by showing my teacher this link also. (hopefully)
Best of luck with the bonus points! A few months of intellectual entrenchment in OT sure helped refresh my critical thinking skills after a few years of deterioration after college, so I hope this helps you.
 
The thing about future members is that they may as well get used to putting numbers after their name anyway. How anyone can get an account on something high-profile like Yahoo without a number or something is beyond me.

Just a thought.
 
"It free's up names for future members"

Smurf that. The first registered can reserve their names (as many have registered just to do that) and later registrants adjust.

(Says user #10, with 1-7 being reserved for admins, and 8 & 9 with 3 posts between them)
 
I have no opinion on the matter, but I thought I'd say that it would really wouldn't take that long for someone to write a script to delete posters who haven't visited the site in say a year and have 0 posts. That way, no lurkers get deleted, and AFAICS, everyone is happy. :)
 
I see no real good reason to delete them.

Do you want a specific nick that they took? Oh well. Add a number to it.

What other reasons are there?
 
Originally posted by FionnMcCumhall
couldnt have said it any better myself.

sigh- deleting posters even with 0 posts isnt good. that shows we are being selective, which we are not. As ainwood said Foiraxis wouldnt even bother with us if we were jerks like that.

I really dont understand why you are like this Strider its kind of a useless argument as i highly doubt you could drum up the support to get this approved.
If they actually cared they would posted something?
so whats to lose
if you are not thrown in prison are you gona get upset that the cops are being selective?
For once i made a important thread
 
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