Tibetan riots and unrest spread to sorrounding provinces

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China acknowledges further unrest

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  • NEW: China acknowledges that anti-government riots have spread to other provinces
  • NEW: Human Rights Watch urges Nepal to stop crackdown on Tibetan protesters
  • Violence hit Tibet late last week with protests against Chinese rule
  • UK PM: Chinese premier conditionally prepared to talk to Dalai Lama
BEIJING, China (CNN) -- China on Thursday acknowledged for the first time that anti-government riots that rocked Tibet last week have spread to other provinces, the nation's state-run news agency reported.
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Chinese troops in an armored carrier patrol the streets of Lhasa, capital of Tibet, Sunday.




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The official Xinhua News Agency said there were "riots in Tibetan-inhabited areas in the provinces of Sichuan and Gansu. Both provinces neighbor Tibet. The Xinhua news agency report blamed the incidents on supporters of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader.
Also on Thursday, an international human rights group urged Nepal to end its crackdown on Tibetan exiles protesting against China, The Associated Press reported.


New York-based Human Rights Watch said Nepal "should cease arbitrary arrests and detentions, harassment, and the use of excessive force to silence Tibetan protesters, activists and journalists," AP reported
Thursday's acknowledgement from China came as new video suggested that security forces had yet to gain control of Tibet and neighboring provinces which have suffered eruptions of anti-Chinese violence since last week.
Film of a crowd -- some on horseback -- attempting to storm a government building has been shot by a Canadian television crew that managed to gain access to a Chinese town in Gansu province despite attempts by Chinese authorities to keep foreign media away from the region.
Meanwhile, UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown said Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao says he is ready to talk to the Dalai Lama if the Tibetan spiritual leader renounces violence and demands for Tibetan independence.
Brown said he spoke with Wen on Wednesday, pressing his government for constraint in dealing with the protesters.
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But Chinese officials hold firm in their stance that the Dalai Lama masterminded the violence to undermine the Beijing Olympics and that he has demanded Tibetan independence. Wen on Tuesday called the Dalai Lama's renunciations "nothing but lies."


The Dalai Lama, who threatened Tuesday to resign as leader of Tibet's government-in-exile if the violence got out of control, met Wednesday with leaders of several Tibetan activist groups. The younger activists, in defiance of their pacifist spiritual leader, demand Tibetan independence and are hoping to derail the Beijing Olympics.
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The head of the Beijing Olympics said efforts by Tibetan activists to promote an international boycott of the Summer Games are "doomed to failure." He also rejected demands by Tibetan activists that the Olympic torch relay be routed away from Tibet.
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Members of the Canadian TV crew reached the town in Gansu province, near the Tibet border, where they videotaped hundreds of angry protesters attempting to storm a government building.


Led by several dozen villagers on horseback, about 1,000 people rushed toward the facility only to be turned back by 100 Chinese soldiers who were inside, according to Canadian TV correspondent Steve Chao. The video showed women and children among the charging throng.
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After they were repelled, the villagers ran to a nearby school where they tore up a Chinese flag and replaced it with the Tibetan flag. That section of Gansu province is part of historical Tibet, but it is not inside what is now known as the Tibetan Autonomous Region.


Tibetan monks at a monastery in Sichuan province -- another neighboring Tibet -- sent word to exiled monks at a branch of their monastery in Dharamsala, India, that two monks were arrested after they e-mailed photographs of monks killed in protests to the news media. Internet and phone service has since been interrupted to the Amdo Ngaba Kirti Monastery in Ngaba County, the exiles told CNN.


The exiled monks said lay people in that area reported that the monks there have been ordered not to congregate for prayers on Thursday, a move they fear is a sign of an oncoming crackdown against the monastery.
Chinese officials hold firm in their stance that the Dalai Lama masterminded the violence to undermine the Beijing Olympics and that he has demanded Tibetan independence. Wen on Tuesday called the Dalai Lama's renunciations "nothing but lies."


In a statement issued Wednesday, the Chinese Embassy in Washington accused some monks of inciting "beating, smashing, looting and burning sprees" in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa.


The statement said that in the past few days, more than 55 vehicles have been smashed or burned in the city, a dozen civilians have been killed, 10 officers have been seriously injured and more than 300 homes and businesses have been set on fire.


"Any attempt to split China will be firmly opposed by the Chinese people of all nationalities, including the Tibetan compatriots, and is doomed to fail," the statement said.
The Chinese government's attacks on the Dalai Lama's motives and methods collide with international pressure for it to begin talking to the exiled Tibetan leader. U.S. Secretary Condoleezza Rice recently renewed her call for such talks and the British prime minister joined the push Wednesday.
"I spoke to Premier Wen of China this morning and I made it absolutely clear that there had to be an end to violence in Tibet," Brown told Parliament Wednesday.


He said he pressed Wen for constraint toward Tibet and asked that China begin talking with the Dalai Lama.


"The premier told me that subject to two things the Dalai Lama has already said -- that he does not support the total independence of Tibet and that he renounces violence -- that he would be prepared to enter into dialogue with the Dalai Lama," Brown said.
It was not immediately clear if this meant the Chinese leader was ready to start that dialogue anytime soon, given Wen's recent rejection of the Dalai Lama's renunciations.


The Chinese premier's refusal to accept his proclamations caused the Dalai Lama to respond with incredulity Tuesday at a news conference in Dharamsala, northeastern India, where he presides over the Tibetan government-in-exile.


"The Chinese prime minister accuses me of all these things I said," he said. "Absolutely not. Prime minister come here and investigate thoroughly all our files, or record my speeches. Then the prime minister will know how much is distorted by local officials."


The Dalai Lama also said that would remain spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhists, but said he is prepared to relinquish his leadership role in the government-in-exile if violence persists in Tibet. "If things go out of control then my only option is to completely resign," he added.
The Dalai Lama met with leaders of Tibetan exile groups Wednesday gain their support for his "middle way" strategy of asking for autonomy -- not independence -- and renouncing violence.
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But many of the younger activists, most of whom were born in exile and have never been allowed to visit their homeland, insist total independence from China must be their goal. Unlike the Dalai Lama, they also hope to tarnish China's efforts as host of the 2008 Summer Olympics.
Jiang Xiaoyu, vice president of the Beijing Olympic organizing committee, said Wednesday plans to include Tibet in the Olympic torch relay will not be derailed by the protests.


persuade Olympic athletes to boycott the opening ceremonies in August.
Olympic historian David Wallechinsky said it would be an effective protest. "Some sort of boycott of the opening ceremonies, either by not carrying the national flags or, you know, toning it down or having world leaders not appear, that is something that Chinese citizens watching on television could not avoid seeing," Wallechinsky told CNN

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So do they have any hope?
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I just saw this on CCTV Spanish - if the state run news is reporting it (and I think it's the only one) then you know it's bad :(

I hope that no one else dies. :(
 
Thus far only ethnic Tibetans in other provinces have been rioting. Government is keeping a lid on things, limiting the release of news. Things could only get worse if the majority get incensed and resort to retaliatory violence themselves.
 
The armored vehicle reads: "Maintain the stability for the people"

Don't know about the details. We only got state media and spontaneous foreign report.

At least this time, China is a bit more open than in SARS incident.
 
If Mao was in charge, the Potala Palace would probably be a burning pile of charcoal by now.

The Chinese are exercising restraint to their credit. Let's hope they keep it up.

Wrong. When Mao was in charge and the "rebel" was in action back in 1958-1959, he just laid siege until the Tibetans surrender.
 
Wrong. When Mao was in charge and the "rebel" was in action back in 1958-1959, he just laid siege until the Tibetans surrender.

remember the cultural revolution...
 
remember the cultural revolution...

Yes, several large temples were burned down. However, the Potala Palace remained intact, due to the Chinese army's guarding. The Chinese government was not that foolish. It is those anti-culture red guards that was insane, because of the government's ruthless propaganda.

If you cheat for people for too long, they may rise against your cause, now the Chinese "wolf's milk" education comes back and haunt the government itself, aha!
 
I hope the PROC would keep their restraints and not kill their own citizens.
 
China's going down quickly... :lol:

Pfft, if it was in their self interest to do so, they'd massacre all of Tibet just to keep order. There's no way they would actually go down from these riots.
 
China is in a tricky situation with this one - crushing the protests would make them look oppressive and murderous in the eyes of the world, whilst not crushing the protests makes them look weak in the eyes of the many, many dissenters and oppressed peoples within the country. A really big country with a multi-millennial history of endless civil strife.

At this point they seem to be hoping that a show of force and some newspeak will put the Tibetans back in line. Things could get interesting if it doesn't, though. Hopefully there's some way this can end not-badly, hm?
 
From what I can observe in my surroundings this week (and this covers 3 different cities) this isn't as big as some would wish it to be. It's business as usual over here. No riots, no demonstrations, nothing. Nobody even cares. :dunno:
 
From what I can observe in my surroundings this week (and this covers 3 different cities) this isn't as big as some would wish it to be. It's business as usual over here. No riots, no demonstrations, nothing. Nobody even cares. :dunno:

Hope people don't turn against the west, and it is only a shock reaction.

I found it irony that many people sympathize Tiananmen Square Incident, and choose to believe some vague BBC documentary. This time they turn against almost every western media.
 
partition of china anybody?

seriously, the only way for Tibet to get modernized is to be with china, not independent. Same goes for Inner Mongolia.
 
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