Time to break some hearts --- T&L related.

[KymeraTX]

i upgrade my PC once every 2 years with the latest and greatest if i can Gotta be rdy for these new age games.

 

[azurefx]

I'd recommend not even touching pre-built machines, but rather putting in a fortnight's worth of research and constructing your own. Far more risky, but you usually get a good deal more for your money and you have the assurance all the components are to your standards. Oh, and 3.5k is way, way too much unless you're some kind of FPS twitch gaming fanatic. You should be able to put together a damn good computer for under 1k that'll last you a good long time.

Edit: And if you've never built a computer before, find someone else who has to help you with it. The results could be painful otherwise. A tiny static spark can screw $300 worth of gfx card.

As to danwhit, could easily be the gfx card, so don't jump to any conclusions before you put the new one in.

 

[Ozymandous]

Well, I hope that since i ran Pirates! flawlessly my machine is a fluke and runs civ 4 well otherwise I get to go buy a crappy pci card just for t & l...

P4 2.9 HT
1256 Ram
865G(or GV) integrated chip

If you buy dell beware! I didn't and they only gave me a pci slot (bastards)

-SA

Ah, Dell has only shipped PC's with PCIe slots on them, no AGP, for the past year and a half to two years. If you weren't paying attention to the system spec's of the PC you bought it's not their fault.

 

[southafrica]

Ah, Dell has only shipped PC's with PCIe slots on them, no AGP, for the past year and a half to two years. If you weren't paying attention to the system spec's of the PC you bought it's not their fault.

I bought one last year, so by the above I should have a PCIe... however I got mine less than a year ago...

-SA

 

[ArbitraryGuy]

Anyone tried 3D Analyzer yet? I don't have T&L, but was able to get Imperial Glory (crappy game) to work w/ 3D Analyzer. Anyone tried it with Civ 4?

 

[John Lenin]

Beat me to it on the 3D Analyse thing - my old laptop was not T&L compatible and I was resigned to never playing some of my favourite games on it, notably EVE. Then I discovered 3D Analyse and the thing worked like a charm. Oddly, though, it wouldn't run KOTOR at all, plus one or two other T&L games in my possession. But as it's a free app you might as well giive 3D Analyse a go, you might not need the new PC after all.

 

[Equanimity]

Reply to Eli -> Does anyone knows whether the ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 on my laptop will run the game?

Got same card, only 16 mb through. For me, game runs fine. I have T&L, ran pirates fine. Was able to run civ IV, got game started, but have the black landscape problem. So for me, nope, Civ IV did not work.

Hope this helps.

 

[ArbitraryGuy]

But, PLEASE, if you try 3D Analyze, let us know if it works! Thanks.

Comraddict posted the link earlier. Here it is again http://www.tommti-systems.de/go.html?http://www.tommti-systems.com/main-Dateien/files.html

 

[baboon]

Don't get me on the exact numbers, but:

AMD 64 3000+ 180$
mainboard 150$
1 gb RAM 125$
Geforce 6800GT 275$
HD 200GB 100$
Case+power 50$

There is your below $1000 almost-powerhouse gaming machine. Just don't buy Quake 4 and you'll be fine for 2 years.

 

[vStauffenberg]

Don't get me on the exact numbers, but:

AMD 64 3000+ 180$
mainboard 150$
1 gb RAM 125$
Geforce 6800GT 275$
HD 200GB 100$
Case+power 50$

There is your below $1000 almost-powerhouse gaming machine. Just don't buy Quake 4 and you'll be fine for 2 years.

this is what i'm thinking about getting for civ4:

-1024MB DDR Infineon PC3200/400 CL 3 • 129,00 € 1
-AMD Athlon64 3000+ S.939 Tray 512kB, 200 MHz,0,09u "Venice" • 116,00€
-MSI NX6600GT-TD128E NVIDIA 6600GT, 128MB, PCIe • 154,00 € 1
-Case 6C29BS schwarz 350W HEC 350MR-PT/D • 66,93 € 1
-Samsung Samtron 94V TCO99, 12ms, Silver/Black • 279,00 € 1
-Thermaltake Silent 939 Sockel 754/939 • 22,90 € 1
-Samsung TS-352A Bulk schwarz • 22,31 € 1
-ASUS A8N-SLI, Sockel 939 NVIDIA Nforce4 SLI, ATX • 111,00 € 1
-Samsung HD160JJ S-ATA II 160GB 7200, 8 MB Cache, NCQ • 86,33 € 1

Total: 987,47 €

this machine should run civ4 smoothly without any problems at highest details. it can be upgraded for dual-core athlon processors. and it has sli for putting 2 nvidia 7800 in it in a year or so when prices are lower...
19" lcd monitor included! less than 1000€!!

(hope i didn't forget anything... )

 

[thehouse]

how do you use tommti?

 

[ArbitraryGuy]

how do you use tommti?

Are you talking about the program 3D Analyzer? Run 3D Analyzer check "emulate HW TnL caps" (it's under Hardware Limits). Now, click Select, choose the civ 4 executable in the civ 4 folder. Now, click RUN. And last, but not least, let me know if it works. Hope this helps.

 

[AlazkanAssassin]

I saw something on Slashdot a while back about something called Swiftshader by TransGaming Technologys.
It's a pure software 3D renderer. They have a free demo and i think it might be able to run the game.
I personally do not yet have the game, so I can't test it. I would test it when I finally get the game, but by then I'll have my new graphics card and I'll likely not care anymore.

If anyone is interested the site is www.transgaming.com/swiftshader.php

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

I've just spent a fruitless few minutes trying to find out about my laptops graphics card. Any know anything about the ATI Radeon Mobility X300 and more to the point whether it has T&L or even better if it will run CIV ok. It's pretty recent, I'd be surprised if it had a problem.

 

[doronron]

The Radeon xNNN series, Mobility or not, should all have T&L. for a quick check, try:

www.srtest.com

It has a database of hardware and their capabilities when compared to certain software (such as Civ IV).

 

[Vael]

Laptop X300 should be fine.

 

[insydr]

Does anyone knows whether the ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 on my laptop will run the game?

I'll be trying this (I have a 7500 w/32mb RAM on my laptop) as soon as I get home, so hopefully I can report back within an hour or so.

Actually, if I don't report back, then it works.

 

[obscurereferenc]

Have you tried 3d analyser yet? Very worried - if this doesn't work i'll have to return my new laptop tomorrow. :-(

 

[move_quietly]

have the exact same problem.

leaders just have grins and eyes, the rest black

map just shows units, resources, and forests, the rest black

sony vaio t-250

 

[thehouse]

I opened the 3d analyzer select the civ4.exe and selected the TnL but I could not click the run. I was also unable to select run with warcraft 3