Tokugawa the Unsettled (Conquests 1.22 Deity Variant)

[Sir Bugsy]

Read Nad’s post about Literature and swap science over using lone scientist in Kyoto for the moment. Science slider goes to 0%.
After whacking another Spanish warrior, Isabella will now give us two cities and two techs. Maybe I missed something the first time around.
I can’t pass this one up so I take Philosophy and Polytheism plus Murcia and Santiago & 41G for peace. I like it.

Santiago is to the east. I start a warrior there just for MP duty. I also start a warrior in Murcia. Both cities are unhappy so more accountants come out of the closet.

I garrison Madrid with two horses to hopefully keep it from flipping. I move the rest of our troops back towards Kyoto for the next offensive.

Trade time: Byzantines have the most cash. Sell them Polytheism for Math & 112G.
Buy Map Making off Hammi for Poly & 13G.
Zulu are at parity, Spain also has Monarchy, which we can’t touch quite yet.
Sell the Hittites, Map Making for all their cash=>67G. Sell Poly to Mao for all their cash => 43G. That gives us 301G plus a positive cash flow of 19gpt. So our economy is healthy for a little while.

IBT – Our warrior down in Hittite land is kicked out.
Kyoto: horse=>horse
Chinese start Artemis.

9. 1400 BC – Mapstat tells me that CoL is out there. Hammi won’t sell it for Philosophy and our entire economy.

Lux comes down to 10%. Hire the entire IRS in Madrid.

IBT – Our guy gets tossed out of Iroquois lands again. The resisters in Madrid are stomped on, and the Babylonians start Artemis.
10. 1375 BC – Spain bought CoL from Babylon. Not much else.

IBT – Wines are hooked up. The Japanese celebrate with a wine tasting party.

11. 1350 BC – Start on a road north to Murcia. I looks like China might settle between Madrid and Kyoto. That would be very nice of them. Our entire economy still insults Isabella for Monarchy. Put our scientist in Kyoto back to work and force the accountant in Murcia to start looking into this literature thing.

IBT – Get tossed out of Iroquois land again. This time for drinking too much wine.
Kyoto: horse=>horse
Byzantines start the Mausoleum.
Iroquois have construction.

12. 1325 BC - Kyoto has grown. Hire a tax man again. We have seven horses in position to assault the Hittites. We can buy CoL for 397 & 1 from Hammi, but I doubt I can turn around and get Construction from Hiawatha. I will hold out and use our cash for Monarchy.

IBT – Get tossed out of Hittite land this time.

13. 1300 BC – I can get CoL now from Mao for Philo & 198G.
Two techs plus all our economy is “doubt it” from Hiawatha.

IBT – Babylon moves three Bowmen near Santiago.

14. 1275 BC – Trading still is iffy.

IBT – The three Babylonians move next to Santiago. We got a few shekels out of that city while we had it. At least Hammi won’t get anything as it will autoraze. Maybe try a loan with him.
Kyoto: horse=>horse

15. 1250 BC – There are now eight horses ready to take on the Hittites.

After Action Report: There are several things you can do before the turn ends. Hammi will take a gpt for tech deal, which may either keep him from attacking undefended Santiago or give us a free tech.
If he does attack, there is a Bab city SE of Madrid that might be worth going after. Maybe just gift him the city or abandon the city to stay out of war and keep our forces free for attacking the Hittites.

Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/Nad_-_1250BC.zip

Situation:

 

[TedJackson]

A nice first war for us

I have to say that China looks a very tempting target: Gems, Spices, Dyes & more Iron. Perhaps gift Santiago to them and when they become embroiled in war with one of the Eastern AI then strike up through Chengdu & Canton.


Ted

 

[Yom]

Great turns Sir Bugsy.

So, who's up? Me or Gozpel?

 

[Nad]

Very well done Sir Bugsy .

From the screenshot it's not 100% clear if the Babs are definitely sneak attacking...they might be taking a shortcut. I think it is probably a sneak attack, but I would not abandon the city for the sake of a few gold, on the off chance they are just passing through.

AFAIK, if we were to gift the city to someone else the Bab sneak attack would be postponed rather than cancelled...I don;t know for sure what would happen.

Interesting times ahead.

gozpel...UP NOW
Yom...ON DECK

 

[Aggie]

Is it correct that I don't see a sav-file in the zip?

 

[Nad]

I can't extract the file from the zip at all, but then I often have that problem with zips.

 

[Greebley]

I can see the sav file. I will post it here for anyone having troubles with the ZIP.

 

[TedJackson]

No problem with the zip here, the save extracted & loaded fine.



Ted

 

[gozpel]

Ok, I got it.

 

[gozpel]

Pre-turn - All is good.

When the AI walk in with units and are considered stronger than us, they are usually up to no good. But there are Iroquois units around the area, so I will wait and see.

30% luxtax (cost 6gpt) let us use all citizens in Kyoto and horses can be built in 2 turns (15 shields/turn). I move out all horses from Kyoto.

1225bc - Zulu kick out our warrior. Babylon bowmen ignore our city and some Iro sword shows up near Santiago.

I declare on Hittites. We kill 3 spears, losing one horse and take Aleppo.

1200bc - IT - Babs and Iro's are killing each other near Santiago.

Kyoto horse -> horse

1175bc - IT - Hittite 3-man chariot kills a horse.

Seville temple -> barracks
Santiago warrior -> worker
Murcia warrior -> warrior

Kill a spear and the chariot and we got a leader. Build army.
Kill another spear and a warrior.

1150bc - IT - 2 Hittite warriors dies against our warrior near Zululand, a third kill him.
A warrior dies against our spear in Seville.

Kyoto horse -> horse

Load 3 horses in army and rename it Gozpel's Gnats.
Attack Tarsus with army (4/13) and kill 2 spears.
Take the city with an elite and capture 6 slaves!

Iro and Zulu are in MA.

Buy Currency from Zulu for Horses and 514g.
Currency, 8gpt and 24g to China for Construction.
Currency to Babs for CoL and 99g.

No chance at all to get Monarchy from Spain.

1125bc - Remove 3 Hittite warriors and a spear from the vicinity.

Spain is in MA as well now and traded with Zulu.

1100bc - IT - Horses defend well against Hittite archer and warrior.

Kyoto horse -> market.

Buy dyes from China for 124g.

1075bc - Kill a 3M-chariot, a spear and a warrior.

1050bc - IT - Hittites attack a 2/4 horse with a spear! and kill it.

Remove 2 spears and get another leader. Move him to Kyoto, we can't build any more armies right now. Should we hurry HE?

1025bc - Kill a spear and a warrior.

1000bc - IT - Byzantine completes SoZ.

Gozpel's Gnats attack Hattusha and kills 2 spears.
Attack with hurt elite horse* who dies against archer.
Another hurt elite takes the city.

Next player, make peace for the city of Ankuwa, we are wearing thin.

We can build another army now or hurry something, like Heroic Epic.

 

[Greebley]

Hey we are getting a real empire here! Great going, all of you [dance]

That makes Yom up (where have I seen that before?)

If we make peace now and get the city, will that give us eight cities (I count 6 from the minimap which would be one short)? If so I think I would prefer doing that and using the leader for an army or the FP (if we get that at 8 cities). If not, then it depends how easy it is to get to eight cities. The herioc epic is fairly cheap for even a small wonder and is not vital. I would still rather the leader was kept for the FP or a second army.

 

[gozpel]

I think we have 8 now, one (Santiago) is far east. Or we will get 8 for sure with the Hittite city we can get for peace.

Good point about the FP, I didn't even think of that.

 

[Aggie]

Great job gozpel I agree that we should make peace now. That city we can get is a beuatiful one for us. We could rush the FP there.

 

[Nad]

Well done gozpel

Unfortunately I think it is 10 cities for the FP on a standard map in Conquests, so I'd create another army when we have 8 cities.

Yom...UP NOW
Aggie...ON DECK

 

[TedJackson]

Nice job on the Hittites gozpel


Ted

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Nice job with the

I think we need to turn our attention northward and add a Chinese city or three to our collection. :devil2:

 

[gozpel]

Another city we would like to have is Nicaea E of Seville. Another horse can be useful for trading and since the town recently expanded it's borders.... It would be a fairly brief war I think.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

We would probably trade Nicaea for Santiago, but that isn't such a bad thing. Nicaea is a better city.

 

[Greebley]

Yom, Are you going to need a swap/skip for this game as well?

(he mentioned in another thread that he was having problems running Civ).

 

[Nad]

Maybe we should temp-skip Yom until he confirms he is available and ready to play again?

So,

Aggie...UP NOW
Yom/Nad...ON DECK