Hamlet
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What's your opinion of him?
Tony Blair
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drake
Bring it
Seems like a sensible enough of a guy. I don't know what his domestic policies are like for I don't live in Britian, but his hard line stance on the whole terrorism situation has impressed me.
For someone that looks and speaks so feminine like, that guys got some quite harsh and frank comments!
For someone that looks and speaks so feminine like, that guys got some quite harsh and frank comments!
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
I watched the House of Commons today...I really think Blair is making big mistakes when it comes to Railtrack.
And no, I don't live in Britain. I live in and love the good old U.S.A.
And no, I don't live in Britain. I live in and love the good old U.S.A.
Crazy Eddie
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Blair isn't stupid, but he is a control freak, who thinks he's god because he's got such a big majority in the Commons.
You can tell whenever his government has done something stupid, because he deflects all the press attention by announcing new "reforms" in the House of Lords, (which strangely enough gives his party more power and the Tories less) the most recent one coming soon after Jo Moore's Sep. 11 e-mail - "a very good day to get out anything we want to bury"
see- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1588000/1588323.stm
By the way, can you tell who I DIDN'T vote for...
You can tell whenever his government has done something stupid, because he deflects all the press attention by announcing new "reforms" in the House of Lords, (which strangely enough gives his party more power and the Tories less) the most recent one coming soon after Jo Moore's Sep. 11 e-mail - "a very good day to get out anything we want to bury"
see- http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1588000/1588323.stm
By the way, can you tell who I DIDN'T vote for...
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Too bad Margaret Thatcher still wasn't in office...
TrailblazingScot
I was kittenOFchaos
Having read abit from newspapers from the turn of the century the railways have ALWAYs had issues...just read "Three men in a boat" written by Jerome K Jerome, published in 1889.
I'll quote the section from the book concerning getting from Waterloo to Kingston by the "Great Western Railway".
Quote:
We got to Waterloo at eleven, and asked where the eleven-five started from. Of course nobody knew; nobody at Waterloo ever does know where a train is going to start from, or where a train when it does start is going to, or anything about it. The porter who took our things thought it would go from number two platform, while another porter, with whom he discussed the question, had heard a rumour that it would go from number one. The station-master, on the other hand, was convinced it would start from the local.
To put an end to the matter, we went upstairs, and asked the traffic superintendent, and he told us that he had just met a man, who said he had seen it at number three platform. We went to number three platform, but the authorities there said that they rather thought that train was the Southampton express, or else the Windsor loop. But they were sure it wasn't the Kingston train, though why they were sure it wasn't they couldn't say.
Then our porter said he thought that must be it on the high-level platform; said he thought he knew the train. So we went to the high-level platform, and saw the engine-driver, and asked him if he was going to Kingston. He said he couldn't say for certain of course, but that he rather thought he was. Anyhow, if he wasn't the 11.5 for Kingston, he said he was pretty confident he was the 9.32 for Virginia Water, or the 10 a.m. express for the Isle of Wight, or somewhere in that direction, and we should all know when we got there. We slipped half-a-crown into his hand, and begged him to be the 11.5 for Kingston.
"Nobody will ever know, on this line," we said, "what you are, or where you're going. You know the way, you slip off quietly and go to Kingston."
"Well, I don't know, gents," replied the noble fellow, "but I suppose SOME train's got to go to Kingston; and I'll do it. Gimme the half-crown."
Thus we got to Kingston by the London and South-Western Railway.
We learnt, afterwards, that the train we had come by was really the Exeter mail, and that they had spent hours at Waterloo, looking for it, and nobody knew what had become of it."
The whole book can be read at:
http://www.litrix.com/3menboat/3menb001.htm
As for Sharpe: you are in Minnesota...safely far away from her policies like poll tax, her destruction of the NHS blah, blah, blah...I lived in Scotland during her reign...the Scots voted labour we got tory -THANK GOD! for devolution.
I'll quote the section from the book concerning getting from Waterloo to Kingston by the "Great Western Railway".
Quote:
We got to Waterloo at eleven, and asked where the eleven-five started from. Of course nobody knew; nobody at Waterloo ever does know where a train is going to start from, or where a train when it does start is going to, or anything about it. The porter who took our things thought it would go from number two platform, while another porter, with whom he discussed the question, had heard a rumour that it would go from number one. The station-master, on the other hand, was convinced it would start from the local.
To put an end to the matter, we went upstairs, and asked the traffic superintendent, and he told us that he had just met a man, who said he had seen it at number three platform. We went to number three platform, but the authorities there said that they rather thought that train was the Southampton express, or else the Windsor loop. But they were sure it wasn't the Kingston train, though why they were sure it wasn't they couldn't say.
Then our porter said he thought that must be it on the high-level platform; said he thought he knew the train. So we went to the high-level platform, and saw the engine-driver, and asked him if he was going to Kingston. He said he couldn't say for certain of course, but that he rather thought he was. Anyhow, if he wasn't the 11.5 for Kingston, he said he was pretty confident he was the 9.32 for Virginia Water, or the 10 a.m. express for the Isle of Wight, or somewhere in that direction, and we should all know when we got there. We slipped half-a-crown into his hand, and begged him to be the 11.5 for Kingston.
"Nobody will ever know, on this line," we said, "what you are, or where you're going. You know the way, you slip off quietly and go to Kingston."
"Well, I don't know, gents," replied the noble fellow, "but I suppose SOME train's got to go to Kingston; and I'll do it. Gimme the half-crown."
Thus we got to Kingston by the London and South-Western Railway.
We learnt, afterwards, that the train we had come by was really the Exeter mail, and that they had spent hours at Waterloo, looking for it, and nobody knew what had become of it."
The whole book can be read at:
http://www.litrix.com/3menboat/3menb001.htm
As for Sharpe: you are in Minnesota...safely far away from her policies like poll tax, her destruction of the NHS blah, blah, blah...I lived in Scotland during her reign...the Scots voted labour we got tory -THANK GOD! for devolution.
animepornstar
Deity
if tony blair had a restaurant, i would rather eat at mcdonalds...
i don´t trust that man.
what´s wrong with libraries?
i don´t trust that man.
what´s wrong with libraries?
TrailblazingScot
I was kittenOFchaos
I had dinner in the same restaurant as the First Minister of Scotland Donald Dewar...
Since the CLAN Tomlinson had gathered together there was much drinking, fighting and crying...we had to carry out my grandfather at the end on a chair he was so drunk and as we did so he shouted "GOOD NIGHT Donald"...
As Donald left my grandmother was giving the water-working "bad mother routine"...
Well Donald Dewar is dead now, so the chance of me (as perhaps a senior civil servant in the Scottish Parliament) of meeting him and him re-calling that night is gone...
Nice now that we have a Swede that doesn't trust Tony Blair
Since the CLAN Tomlinson had gathered together there was much drinking, fighting and crying...we had to carry out my grandfather at the end on a chair he was so drunk and as we did so he shouted "GOOD NIGHT Donald"...
As Donald left my grandmother was giving the water-working "bad mother routine"...
Well Donald Dewar is dead now, so the chance of me (as perhaps a senior civil servant in the Scottish Parliament) of meeting him and him re-calling that night is gone...
Nice now that we have a Swede that doesn't trust Tony Blair
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
Seems decent enough from far across the pond. The UK itself seems to be doing ok itself. I do realize he's going to have trouble with the NHS and the trains. It's fun watching him give a speech, Beats Bush, up there with Clinton in oratory. Maybe I am just impressed because of the accent though? 
P.S. When I was London two years ago, I marvelled at the underground and the local train network (one took us out to Hampton Court.) It's a shame we don't have a network that advanced here.
P.S. When I was London two years ago, I marvelled at the underground and the local train network (one took us out to Hampton Court.) It's a shame we don't have a network that advanced here.
scorch
Legalize Pot
he looks like my old boss
duke o' york
It don't mean a thing....
Tony Blair's political style is a triumph of style over content. He has perfected a way of speaking that sounds so earnest that people will believe what he has to say, no matter what flagrant lies he is telling. He may seem to take a strong line on Osama bin Laden, but he is criticised here, quite justly I feel, for being little more than a puppet of the Bush administration.
I don't know if many will remember the OT craze for those quizzes some months back, but there was one which tested your political inclination by means of a diagram with state control/personal freedom running from north to south and right/left wing running from east to west. I found my self in the very bottom left corner despite answering the questions truthfully. Further left than Lenin and more opposed to state control than Gandhi! Anyway, one section of this site showed the position of the current British cabinet. The first screen showed them when they came to power, and the second showed their migration on the chart by the time of the test. Rather worryingly, the vast majority of Labour ministers could be found firmly on the right half of the spectrum, with all the important postholders in the top right quadrant. That is, right wing and pro-state control. The current Labour government are no different to the Conservative government they replaced and indeed won the last election on a firmly right-wing agenda, despite the socialist disguise they used to first get elected. The trouble with this is that they are still the furthest left major party and the Conservatives are forced to move even further to the right in order to secure a sense of identity, with ridiculous consequences.
As Bill Hicks said:
"The democratic system is thus:
"I prefer the ideas of the puppet on the left."
"No, I think the puppet on the right shares my views."
"Hang on, it's the same guy holding both puppets!"
[booming voice] "Go back to sleep, America is in safe hands!" "
And this applies to Britain just as much these days.
I don't know if many will remember the OT craze for those quizzes some months back, but there was one which tested your political inclination by means of a diagram with state control/personal freedom running from north to south and right/left wing running from east to west. I found my self in the very bottom left corner despite answering the questions truthfully.
Further left than Lenin and more opposed to state control than Gandhi! Anyway, one section of this site showed the position of the current British cabinet. The first screen showed them when they came to power, and the second showed their migration on the chart by the time of the test. Rather worryingly, the vast majority of Labour ministers could be found firmly on the right half of the spectrum, with all the important postholders in the top right quadrant. That is, right wing and pro-state control. The current Labour government are no different to the Conservative government they replaced and indeed won the last election on a firmly right-wing agenda, despite the socialist disguise they used to first get elected. The trouble with this is that they are still the furthest left major party and the Conservatives are forced to move even further to the right in order to secure a sense of identity, with ridiculous consequences. As Bill Hicks said:
"The democratic system is thus:
"I prefer the ideas of the puppet on the left."
"No, I think the puppet on the right shares my views."
"Hang on, it's the same guy holding both puppets!"
[booming voice] "Go back to sleep, America is in safe hands!" "
And this applies to Britain just as much these days.
G-Man
A One Man's War
He can play the guitar, so I like him. Rock on!
Crazy Eddie
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He's so full of hot air he should have learnt to play the sax like Clinton. 
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Tony Blair can play the guitar? He doesn't seem like the kind of guy to like any music, much less anything in the past fifty years.
CurtSibling
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I just laugh at some folk.
It doesn't matter if ya put Tony Blair, Joe Stalin or The flamin Easter Bunny In charge, someone will always have a problem with the govt.
AND THAT'S THE WAY DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE.
ASK QUESTIONS of your leaders.
LOOK CLOSELY at those who lead us.
People died to get you a voice as a free person, don't waste that luxury.
Blair isn't as bad as the alternatives...
It doesn't matter if ya put Tony Blair, Joe Stalin or The flamin Easter Bunny In charge, someone will always have a problem with the govt.
AND THAT'S THE WAY DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE.
ASK QUESTIONS of your leaders.
LOOK CLOSELY at those who lead us.
People died to get you a voice as a free person, don't waste that luxury.
Blair isn't as bad as the alternatives...
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
Tony Blair is a sham.
He focuses solely on looking good and would rather listen to the advise of his press sectrery rather than MP's.
He obbseses with making the Chancellor Gordan Brown look bad and apoints people based on their alliegances to him or Brown.
He acts like he is President of the world whilst not giving a damn about domestic policies and refuses to except that people have differences of opinion to him.
He claims to lead a Labour governmet yet continues with Tory policy and blames them when it goes wrong.
He is America's lap dog.
As you can probably tell I don't tell him.
He focuses solely on looking good and would rather listen to the advise of his press sectrery rather than MP's.
He obbseses with making the Chancellor Gordan Brown look bad and apoints people based on their alliegances to him or Brown.
He acts like he is President of the world whilst not giving a damn about domestic policies and refuses to except that people have differences of opinion to him.
He claims to lead a Labour governmet yet continues with Tory policy and blames them when it goes wrong.
He is America's lap dog.
As you can probably tell I don't tell him.
Originally posted by duke o' york
(..)I don't know if many will remember the OT craze for those quizzes some months back, but there was one which tested your political inclination by means of a diagram with state control/personal freedom running from north to south and right/left wing running from east to west. I found my self in the very bottom left corner despite answering the questions truthfully.
I posted it
(wohooo somebody remember it! my ego raised 91048259108%[dance])
U can still see it from www.politicalcompass.org
CurtSibling
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Originally posted by Juize
Yeah and Stalin wasn't really as bad as Hitler so let's get Stalin in charge!
Stalin was one of the most vile and crappest leaders ever.
I would personally enjoy taking him out!
For the liberation of great Mother Roissa!
Freedom!!!
CurtSibling
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Before you mock Government, you should learn to spell it first,
Silly comrade potato!
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