Top 5 non-gameplay reasons to NOT buy Civ 5

What is the best reason not to buy Civ5


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Top 5 non-gameplay reasons to NOT buy civ 5

1. For the love of the Civ franchise.
Civ 5 and the franchise name is being used to bootstrap a social networking/marketing/distribution system with the Steam community as its foundation. While the benefit of belonging to this community can be debated, ultimately required membership does not benefit the civ franchise any more than the status quo. Simply put, Civ is primarily a single player game with a robust support and fan community and does not need to chain itself to a corporate “grand plan” to compete for the digital distribution social networking marketplace. Its already got these things from grassroots efforts.

2.Copy protection, offline use and privacy issues
After purchasing your copy of Civ 5, no matter whether you downloaded it or bought it in a box, you are required to log on to Steam and register it in order to ever use it. In order to ever update/patch it you will again be required to go log on to Steam. You will not be able to operate it on more than one computer at a time. It is unclear how the off-line option will function but many people believe that there will be unintended times of inhibit use. At any time Valve can ban your account (for example for cheating violations in another game and saying something wrong on their forum) and prohibit the use of your product. Valve (or any company) may in the future decided to do something you dont like with your user data.

3. As a protest for firing Firaxis and Rockstar developers.
As a reward for their work on Civ 5, Take two, the parent company of Firaxis, layed off 20 Firaxis developers. As a reward for their work on Red Dead Redemption, 40 developers were laid off at Rockstar by the parent company, which is also Take Two. Developers are real people with families and lives are not a disposable resource to be exploited and then discarded when the job is done to save a few bucks.

4. As a proclamation that customers are partners in the Civ family not Sheep
All the information about the game has not been provided by a customer service rep working with the developers but rather by marketing and advertising minions working for 2K games, the publisher. These salesman work literally 2000+ miles away from the developers, are not qualified to be involved with the development, have very little contact with the developers and exist only to spoon feed the long term marketing campaign to the community. They are not a conduit for communication and the information they provide is unreliable because marketing agendas and true dialog are often juxtaposed. And active fanbase like that which surrounds Civ is an asset to be nurtured not a resource to patronized and harvested. Players are the customers to be satisfied, not stockholders or executives.

5. Downloadable content and the “mod marketplace
Many games are using downloadable content to generate extra income off the game. Uusally this involves selling minor, non gameplay additions. Presenting the civilian Babylon as an optional extra crosses the line and opens the door for gameplay additions to become “optional pay for extras”. The marketing department has been quiet about mods and there is a fear the download marketplace may be used to generate income by selling game mods like one buys apps for the iphone. This would grant creative control and censorship power to Valve as well as turning fan based mod development into a for profit business. It would be difficult if not impossible once mods start getting paid for their work to step back to volunteering which means Vavle would have considerable hand over the modders, a huge part of the leadership in the fan community.

Meta point # 6 : There are many problems with the world today. They all have a common theme. People are uninvolved and uneducated about what is going on. People are focused on getting their needs met to a reasonable low level and not aspiring much beyond that. We have stopped aiming for the stars and demanding the best. By not being involved, we have surrendered our authority to those who are, and those people are often involved not because they seek excellence as a goal but rather they somehow see profit from said involvement. Point 1-5 are all about the player not being involved up till now. Our apathy has stolen our relevance beyond being a harvestable resource. Companies are aiming for our wallets not our hearts. Both with this game, and out their in the world. Some say we all cant save the world…but I’ve heard that many small efforts can bring about a larger change. Lets make one small change here, save our game by ridding it of a toxic relationship, and hopefully be part of a much larger change in the process.
 
To be fair, blame all the jerks who pirate software along with corprate greed for things like steam. At least with steam we can play offline. I don't like steam but 2k has a right to protect its product from theft. Yes, I know the game will get cracked and people will beat steam. That doesn't mean 2k shouldn't make attempts to curve the proablem.
Do you have a more effective way for 2k to deal with craked games?
 
To be fair, blame all the jerks who pirate software along with corprate greed for things like steam. At least with steam we can play offline. I don't like steam but 2k has a right to protect its product from theft. Yes, I know the game will get cracked and people will beat steam. That doesn't mean 2k shouldn't make attempts to curve the proablem.
Do you have a more effective way for 2k to deal with craked games?

Customers who use cracked game make up maybe .001% of the market and are mostly people who would never or could never have bought the game "legally" anyway. The pirating argument is just a red hearing used to distract from the other benefits a company get from various copy protection services. In this case I beleive someone wrote a big check to gain the exposure and reach all the civ customers.
 
stop trolling in my thread please..no one is forcing you to read it or take part in the poll
 
Customers who use cracked game make up maybe .001% of the market and are mostly people who would never or could never have bought the game "legally" anyway. The pirating argument is just a red hearing used to distract from the other benefits a company get from various copy protection services. In this case I beleive someone wrote a big check to gain the exposure and reach all the civ customers.

ROFL you think pirated software makes up .001% of the market? Can I have whatever you are smoking, as that may be the most delusion thing I have ever heard. Do .001% of teenagers have sex too?

On topic, come on guys, these are a good forums, Evrett is an obvious troll, please stop feeding him. This guy is crazier than the guy who lives under the bridge nearest your home, and the only way to control is to ignore. I love that people with advanced knowledge of history, physics, econ, and other intellectual pursuits discuss things on this board, but this dude's threads alone are a plague on an otherwise non-internety forum.

Moderator Action: Flaming - warned
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
I never really got into this hole posting thing intill civ 5. Why exaclty do they call it Trolling. I get the hole under the bridge thing, but that dosen't make perfect sense.
 
Customers who use cracked game make up maybe .001% of the market

I don't know about .001 of the market. I work retail and I will tell you the amount of crap people steal from us is insaine. In my situation they have to physically grap the product and get out of the store with it. Stealing online is way eaiser. Look at things like Napster and Kazza, when they came out. Im not sure what Kazza is doing these days as I actually like to support products I like with my wallet.
I worked with a guy who poudly claimed he has never paid for a game. Been to that guys house let me to you, he is stealing more then his fair share.
 
Customers who use cracked game make up maybe .001% of the market and are mostly people who would never or could never have bought the game "legally" anyway. The pirating argument is just a red hearing used to distract from the other benefits a company get from various copy protection services. In this case I beleive someone wrote a big check to gain the exposure and reach all the civ customers.

Define pirating/cracking, I bought Oblivion for Xbox 360 and PC, but I have a hacked copy for it will run natively on OSX
trust me, you have no idea how many teens pirate, I'm in high school and less than 50% think it is wrong
 
I think every single one of your 162 posts have been about how 2K is evil/Steam is evil/don't buy Civ V. Ok. We get it. You can stop making posts about it.

And yeah I'm still buying the game.
 
I never really got into this hole posting thing intill civ 5. Why exaclty do they call it Trolling. I get the hole under the bridge thing, but that dosen't make perfect sense.

Trolling is what attention starved, bored, or histrionic people do to ignite a response from people over the internet. People that say things only because they have internet anonymity. Feeding a troll is getting upset over what they say, as that's the entire reason they are doing it, akin to getting upset when a bully attacks you.

The bridge part is just a joke given the whole term troll and what trolls traditionally were in fantasy.
 
Moderator Action: I was very clear in my last thread closure that anymore culture war threads would not be tolerated. This one is closed, the OP infracted for trolling and earns a week's ban.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
 
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