Erik Mesoy
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They probably mistook "Home" for "Homo".Well then they should of done some research.
Are you kidding? People missed coca-cola classic so much that when it was re-released sales were better than ever (I think). That may not have been the strategy with new coke, but it is how it turned out.
Take something away, and people want it more than when they had it..
Read the article.How is that a stupid idea?
They both have their pros and cons.Do you think its better to live in the stone age then develop into civilization?
Read the article.
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They both have their pros and cons.
They both have their pros and cons.Xanikk999 said:Do you think its better to live in the stone age then develop into civilization?
It's just a PDF file. I thought you weren't afraid of technology.Sorry, but if its not a direct link im not downloading it. I dont want to risk anything.
Who said anything about living without technology? It's impossible for humans to live without technology. Even chimps use technology.Well do you think the pros outweigh the cons? I dont know anyone who would want to live with no technology.
Major wars and famine usually effect civilized people more freqently than tribal people. Famine is a result of overpopulation and oft-times dependence on just one or two crops.And being in the U.S as you are, war and famine probably dont affect you.![]()
Who said anything about living without technology? It's impossible for humans to live without technology. Even chimps use technology.
tribal groups are more susceptable to overpopulation problems because of lower capacity to deal with it, in addition modern civilization can easily overcome the crop difficulties.Major wars and famine usually effect civilized people more freqently than tribal people. Famine is a result of overpopulation and oft-times dependence on just one or two crops.
I don't demonize civilization, I just like to play devil's advocate.I sort of like modern medicine, advanced communications, fast transportation, and of course the vast amounts of manufactured goods that we have in this day and age. None of them would have been remotely possible without agriculture. You're tempting me to suggest "Eco-Anarchy" as the number one stupidest idea of all time.
They have a higher capcity to deal with it and have dealt with it for around a million years. Sometimes the methods include warfare and infanticide but they dealt with it.tribal groups are more susceptable to overpopulation problems because of lower capacity to deal with it,
History shows otherwise.in addition modern civilization can easily overcome the crop difficulties.
That hold true only within a very small timeframe (around 1800-the present) and in the first world.And while major wars are more common for civilizations minor wars are less frequent and the chances of anyone dying in a war/tribal fued is lower.
Read about that today (saw it on the front page of the news in the grocery store). The diaper bit almost made me1. Driving 900 miles wearing a diaper with intent to kill your crush's girlfriend, only carrying pepper spray, a rubber hose, a mallet, and a bb gun.
I don't demonize civilization, I just like to play devil's advocate.
I take the other side against a somewhat fanatical and illogical Indian fellow here (I agree with a couple of his points but find most of them utterly stupid).
Anyway, you can't prove that effective medicine could not be possible without agriculture. And of course, for a tribal person who are constantly with friends and loved ones a 3AM flight to (or 3AM conversation with) Australia or Tokyo is neither necessary or relevant. Manufactured goods would be largely irrelevant as well (especialy for a nomad). Quality of life > stuff.
Not to say I personally would like to go back to being a hunter-gatherer. But I'm sure many of them (if they could look into their campfire and see ahead) probably wouldn't want to switch with us either. Life was not necessarily as nasty, brutish or short (I don't agree with all of this article, specifically the contextual anti-vegetarian stuff but the weston-price website is overall a great resource) as most contemporary Westerers tend to believe (and many 3rd worlders are probably quite aware of their people's decrease in quality of life since the modern age).
You'll have to define spectacularly and meaningful then.The research necessary to fund modern medicine could not have been done in a society that lacked the extra resources to keep some scientists around. But I'm not entirely certain why I'm trying to defend agricultural society. After all, it's around today, and we can see that it works spectacularly. Rather, you should be showing how a non-agrarian society can achieve anything meaningful.