Turn Based

While casual friends and family may have the time to play turn based MP games. The reality is that most online random lobby games have to be simu turns in order to finish a game in a 2-4 hour time frame.

This has actually been the way Civ MP has been coded and played going way back to Civ2MGE, and though yes it does have it's unique charcateristics, once players adjust to them it has always been a level playing field.

People just don't often have 20hours in a row to play a game, and saving and continuing with random people you meet online just is not practical.

CS

Then it should be an option to either Sim or play Turn based. Let us choose.
 
Then it should be an option to either Sim or play Turn based. Let us choose.

I'm fine with options, I'm sure it would not take much to add a check box for turn based MP in the advanced options. But simu moves should still be the default.

CS
 
While I agree that simultaneous turns should be the default (and expected for ladder games, etc.) It would be nice if the programmers put in the near zero extra work it takes to allow a player to use a mode that already exists for single player. People who feel strongly about turn based (and many threads in for example this forum show there are a lot of them) could arrange to play friends, or even a forum group that agrees to play a set weekly time-slot, save at the end of the slot and continue where they left off next week might prefer it.

That being said, finding a practical solution to double moves like for instance in EU, would be much better than the current simultaneous model.

Turn based PBEM's are also an option.. especially with the quick turns mode available to reduce the number of exchanges.
 
It would be nice to have the option to switch between Simultaneous and Turn Based modes on the fly.

I have no problem with Simultaneous turns during the early game when building up but I'd like to be able to switch to Turn Based mode as soon as a human player declares war on another human player.

The Simultaneous turns just make the game a contest of who can click the "Heal instantly" button faster. It worked fine for Civ4 stacks but not when you have one unit per tile.
 
I played civ 4 and civ rev online with my friends and had a lot of fun. In civ 5, you can't go at war with a player, it's just stupid. So I don't play online.

I realy want a turn based mode. Maybe I'll try sometime to play with player 1 going first, player 2 second and so on... but seems kinda complicated.

This game has a serious lack of online option.
 
Originally Posted by Mikkow:
How about simultaneous turn mode normally, then when two human players are at war with each other, they go into turn-based mode?

YES, this is a great idea. I support it.

This would be my preferred option as well. Just wanted to ask - if you are playing against a friend, is there anything keeping you from agreeing to do the moves in turns? Like agree beforehand that if someone declares on another human player, then the attacker will move all units first and then the defender goes? I guess things get more complicated if multiple players are involved, though.
 
They should put an option for turn base play in MP in the next patch it seems really strange that when you play solo the game is turn based and you get use to the flow and then when you go multi player the game goes into sim turn mode.I play mainly with just one other human and 6 AI so a turn based game would go reasonably fast.If I was in a 5 human and 3 AI game then I might switch on Sim turn mode but atleast give the players the option.
 
I just can´t believe its still not possible to play this turn based in MP!!! This is the sole reason I bought the game. Was hopefull that this new upcoming patch would fix this. My god CIV 2 had this!

This is a turn based strategy game - don´t ruin this game for me :(
 
This is why I bought Civ-5. I never thought to look and see if it was an option, because it has ALWAYS been an option. I play with my girlfriend (you know how cool that is!?), and now I have to tell her she's out of luck, unless we go buy a second PC and another copy of the game! This sucks!

This game is now worthless to me. Thanks Firaxis for the rip off!

PATCH PLEASE!:mad:
 
I love multiplayer and I love the turn based because I have a fast connection and tend to be able to wipe out an entire enemy army before they even get to move a unit.

PROBLEM? YES. This is completely unfair.

Likewise, the host has a clear advantage too. The best way to counter this is either buy a faster connection or reduce the settings to help eliminate lag. In games I have played, having few (or no) city-states really increased the gameplay ability.
 
I love multiplayer and I love the turn based because I have a fast connection and tend to be able to wipe out an entire enemy army before they even get to move a unit.

PROBLEM? YES. This is completely unfair.

Likewise, the host has a clear advantage too. The best way to counter this is either buy a faster connection or reduce the settings to help eliminate lag. In games I have played, having few (or no) city-states really increased the gameplay ability.

No barbs help too. And i guess you exagerate in your first paragraph or you play only beginner players and players with horsehockey comp and connection.
 
No barbs help too. And i guess you exagerate in your first paragraph or you play only beginner players and players with horsehockey comp and connection.

Nope, not exaggerating, I'm just that good! :) Only met a few people that can their own against me and we tend to duel- uigaw, goldenisla, ermak (whom I despise because he is just a jerk), crsbrian, oblogado, and a couple others. If you see those guys (or me) in a multiplayer... I'd be careful. :)

Also, if you ever see a guy named 'Iprogurdeath', he's some kind of dev, hacker or something. I played him and he rushed me with spears (which usually is no issue)... only problem is what he rushed with and when was physically impossible... I've done the math and he would have to pump a spear every 1 turn AND have gotten all the techs in huts. I counted tiles and he was 17 away, so when he attacked with 7 (yes 7) spears and a General (on turn 27!!!) he would have taken 12 turns to get to me. I went back and did the math again and again and since I know getting to Bronze is at least mining and bronze (so 10 turns min unless hut), he couldn't start producing spears until turn 6 at the absolute earliest (even if he got back to back huts he would have had to turns to get to them). Let's just assume for the sake of argument that he even got a free spear upgrade in a hut too, so that means he would have had to still make 6 spears in 9 turns!!! (turn 27-6research-12tocity=9 turns to produce 6 spears). Unless it was some crazy act of god, the guy has a cheat program, so be aware they are out there. He would have had to get 1 or 2 free hut techs, a unit upgrade, and the most amazing city I have ever seen to pump out a spear every turn. Needless to say my 1 spear and 3 warriors didn't hold the capital.

BUT, In a fair game, I'll take you any day. :P
 
Nope, not exaggerating, I'm just that good! :) Only met a few people that can their own against me and we tend to duel- uigaw, goldenisla, ermak (whom I despise because he is just a jerk), crsbrian, oblogado, and a couple others. If you see those guys (or me) in a multiplayer... I'd be careful. :)

Also, if you ever see a guy named 'Iprogurdeath', he's some kind of dev, hacker or something. I played him and he rushed me with spears (which usually is no issue)... only problem is what he rushed with and when was physically impossible... I've done the math and he would have to pump a spear every 1 turn AND have gotten all the techs in huts. I counted tiles and he was 17 away, so when he attacked with 7 (yes 7) spears and a General (on turn 27!!!) he would have taken 12 turns to get to me. I went back and did the math again and again and since I know getting to Bronze is at least mining and bronze (so 10 turns min unless hut), he couldn't start producing spears until turn 6 at the absolute earliest (even if he got back to back huts he would have had to turns to get to them). Let's just assume for the sake of argument that he even got a free spear upgrade in a hut too, so that means he would have had to still make 6 spears in 9 turns!!! (turn 27-6research-12tocity=9 turns to produce 6 spears). Unless it was some crazy act of god, the guy has a cheat program, so be aware they are out there. He would have had to get 1 or 2 free hut techs, a unit upgrade, and the most amazing city I have ever seen to pump out a spear every turn. Needless to say my 1 spear and 3 warriors didn't hold the capital.

BUT, In a fair game, I'll take you any day. :P


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12 turns to get you? It's approximatively 20 tiles form you if i count some hills on the way. Did you play on a duel map and no barbs? That's really far lol

If you pick a culture ruin you can get a GG on turn 25 if you don't settle a second city before. And he attacked you on turn 27...he needed 2 culture ruins to do this and probably 2 other ruins to upgrade 2 warriors...and bought 2 spears for a total of 340 gold...and built 3 spears...and bring them from 20 tiles away....definitively impossible.

A ''standard'' spears rush is approximatively 5 of them in like 35 turn. And you need a culture ruin and upgrade and cash from them as well if you want to ''boost'' the rush.

A nice player i met is MAKAVELI he's a very good player. We fought a war only on turn 80 but he has great skills(i finally won 50 turns later). A russian name guy i don't remember the name i had hard times with him as well. Very few players made me scratch my head so far and you swordspider you are one of them.

Too bad i've got the shittiest start i ever seen against you and i played bad probably because i had no ressources like horses and iron(not motivated). :blush: If you remember i was on a back of a long desertic and sinuous road leading to the main continent(pangea) and barbs blocked the only tile i could cross over to the settled city, making this city defenseless for too much time. My spears struggled against barbs while you attacked me with your swords.... :cry:

Let's play another one someday. And don't play Ermak. I played 3 games and killed him 3 times.:goodjob:
I remember about uigaw but not fought in the only game i played against him(we were 6 and the game crashed around turn 70).

Edit : i sent you an invitation. My steam name is Tabarnak2010. I don't work next week i will have some spare time to play more multi games.

@seconsaber : What is your steam name? dabraves?
 
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