Turn Discussion Thread

I think we want to build a galley before the settler. This gives Sirius the opportunity to grow to size 6, and lets the warriors explore the neighboring island while we build the settler.
Sure, that's what i would have posted. For some reason i reversed the galley and the settler and not noticed it :blush:

Grow to 6 before the settler can give us the chance to hire 2 Sci while building the settler, instead to work commerce-poor tiles. Few turns of delay (1-2, i think) for the settler won't mean much compared to an early GS and to increased research. We have also more time to explore the island and discuss where to settle.

Voyager:
I think the best thing is to follow the coast SW. If the land we can see is a peninsula, moving E we risk to be forced to go back if we want to scout Southward and Eastward.

If we're looking for a new opponent or for new land/resources i suppose we exclude to go E.

A request for Trystero or for next player.
Can you please verify which religion(s) is (are) already founded?

I agree about CoL, it's really useful for Courthouses, but since we need Polyteism or Meditation to research PH, i don't see any problem in researching the one which can give us a religion in the process. Few turns of delay on Alpha will not be the end of the world.
I agree also that Judaism is too faraway from our present research path to be useful.
 
What if we can get poly or medi from the Persians. This is why we need to get Alphabet. We've already delayed Alphabet to get sailing.
 
A request for Trystero or for next player.
Can you please verify which religion(s) is (are) already founded?

Or better yet, just look at the turn tracker thread:

Turn 33 - 2680 BC

Update:

No Horses, Writing in 4 turns.

Buddaism Founded.
...

That Hindu is gone can be seen from any of the recent screenshots.
 
Delaying Alphabet could lose us an entire tech, if we research something that AMAZON have already, while at the same time the delay also causes them to research a tech we already have because they need it more urgently and can't afford to wait for us to get around to it. We really need to hear back from them.
 
Sure, that's what i would have posted. For some reason i reversed the galley and the settler and not noticed it :blush:

No problem. :)

Grow to 6 before the settler can give us the chance to hire 2 Sci while building the settler, instead to work commerce-poor tiles. Few turns of delay (1-2, i think) for the settler won't mean much compared to an early GS and to increased research. We have also more time to explore the island and discuss where to settle.

I agree. I think this was what Irgy had in mind with his micro plan.

Voyager:
I think the best thing is to follow the coast SW. If the land we can see is a peninsula, moving E we risk to be forced to go back if we want to scout Southward and Eastward.

If we're looking for a new opponent or for new land/resources i suppose we exclude to go E.

My apologies if I misunderstand you, but: The problem with moving SW is that there is no guarantee that the water we see to the SW is an open waterway. I think it is likely to be, but it could be a bay. Since we know going east is going around the Persian island, it will almost definitely lead us to the next civilization.

A request for Trystero or for next player.
Can you please verify which religion(s) is (are) already founded?

I agree about CoL, it's really useful for Courthouses, but since we need Polyteism or Meditation to research PH, i don't see any problem in researching the one which can give us a religion in the process. Few turns of delay on Alpha will not be the end of the world.
I agree also that Judaism is too faraway from our present research path to be useful.

As of the last turn I played (turn 42), only Buddhism and Hinduism had been founded. As Irgy and AlphaShard have mentioned, we are hoping to get religious techs (at least Mysticism) from Team AMAZON, so we are prioritizing Alphabet at the moment.

Delaying Alphabet could lose us an entire tech, if we research something that AMAZON have already, while at the same time the delay also causes them to research a tech we already have because they need it more urgently and can't afford to wait for us to get around to it. We really need to hear back from them.

I've been delaying playing turns somewhat, with the intention of giving diplomacy more time (I've actually waited until Amazon has played their turn for the last few turns). But are we all in agreement, that we should pursue Alphabet next, regardless? We will finish Sailing in the next turn, so we need to make this decision.

Also, we should delay playing this turn somewhat so we can do some more micro planning. I've downloaded Irgy's new save (Thanks! :goodjob:), but I haven't had much chance to look it over since we had friends visiting.

Edit: Since another turn has started (turn 43) I logged in and verified that no new religions have been founded. Also, I had to pick the next tech since we completed Sailing, so I picked Alphabet. Note that this is currently a placeholder only, since I don't think we've reached a final decision on this. I made no other decisions/moves for this turn.
 
My apologies if I misunderstand you, but: The problem with moving SW is that there is no guarantee that the water we see to the SW is an open waterway. I think it is likely to be, but it could be a bay. Since we know going east is going around the Persian island, it will almost definitely lead us to the next civilization.
no, you got it right, but:
If Voyager moves E/NE or anyway in the direction which brings it inside Persian borders, we risk a very long trip to our next opponent. An part of this will reveal nothing interesting, but some Persian land.

IF and IF again, the one we see is NOT a bay, we can explore a completely unknown land.
We can also risk a turn to verify if it's a bay or a canal, i think
As of the last turn I played (turn 42), only Buddhism and Hinduism had been founded. As Irgy and AlphaShard have mentioned, we are hoping to get religious techs (at least Mysticism) from Team AMAZON, so we are prioritizing Alphabet at the moment
OK, i needed this answer. Let's forget Poly and Medi for now, no prize in sight. Straight to Alpha.
Let's hope our "friends" can give us something interesting.
 
Well, we need to consider what to do if we don't hear back from them soon and we need to play the turn.

My preference would be to go for Alphabet anyway. We know for sure we can at least get Mysticism for it.

At worst it's an 8 turn delay on Monarchy, and, while it would be good to confirm this with test games and a longer term micro plan, I'm fairly sure we won't grow above our happy cap before then anyway, since we plan on working 2 scientists at 6 pop with no spare food at all until we build a lighthouse, and have workers and settlers to build even after that. Not to mention 6 being our current health cap.
 
By the way we need a second worker before another settler. It's a bad idea to send the settler off without a worker, and I don't want to send our only worker offshore. The worker has plenty of useful things to do here while we wait for the settler, while I think the same can't be said about the settler waiting for a worker.
 
By the way we need a second worker before another settler. It's a bad idea to send the settler off without a worker, and I don't want to send our only worker offshore. The worker has plenty of useful things to do here while we wait for the settler, while I think the same can't be said about the settler waiting for a worker.

OK, that makes sense, I am inclined to agree. And we could use the new worker to chop the PFH south of Sirius to speed the settler.

The next builds in Sirius after the current warrior would be: galley > worker > settler > settler/worker (to avoid growth) or a second exploring work boat???.

The builds in Canopus I am thinking of after the current WB: WB (for 2nd fish) > worker (to improve the home island)? > ???

We'll need to consider building Granary and Lighthouses after we start running HR and can grow more. A lighthouse in Sirius would feed another specialist.

no, you got it right, but:
If Voyager moves E/NE or anyway in the direction which brings it inside Persian borders, we risk a very long trip to our next opponent. An part of this will reveal nothing interesting, but some Persian land.

OK, but the consensus during the last turn was to continue around the outside of the mainland/island group. Heading SW now could lose the half turn we spent going east. Also, the opinion seemed to be this was less risk. It doesn't seem like the Persians/Amazon have researched Sailing yet, and we know they've only founded one other city, which is likely to be on their home island rather than an neighboring one.

Edit: They seem to have Sailing. See the Espionage thread here.
 
Have azzaman and Lord Parkin lost interest in this game? They were such prominant posters beforehand!
 
I believe azzaman is out of town for a couple of weeks. LP has been around, but he's in graduate school, so that can take up a lot of time (as I know from personal experience :)).
 
LP may also still be recovering from being sick. I am sure he will return when he has more time.
 
It appears AMAZON have accepted our suggestion that they research towards Monarchy while we research Alphabet. I think it would be quite wise to accept this deal and go along with it. I have a feeling the game's going to be timing out (as both the Sirius intrateam and the MTDG warmup games are at the moment), but once it's back we can play the turn, with research towards Alphabet confirmed.
 
It appears AMAZON have accepted our suggestion that they research towards Monarchy while we research Alphabet. I think it would be quite wise to accept this deal and go along with it. I have a feeling the game's going to be timing out (as both the Sirius intrateam and the MTDG warmup games are at the moment), but once it's back we can play the turn, with research towards Alphabet confirmed.
Their answer, or probably their new message (i agree that is was just retouched after ours last one) is very open and i think we can even accept their proposal for a permanent NAP with 15 turns of notice. But this can be discussed later.

I'm now concerned by our Voyager. I got the feeling that if that tile is a canal, we must head South (well, with all the needed variations, but just to give the idea).

For the rest, it seems that everything is well planned and goin' smoothly.

And i PMed Dave for the host.
 
DAve won't be back until the 9th.
 
I like how he beat you to the punch Irgy. Lol And welcome back Dave!
 
I'm now concerned by our Voyager. I got the feeling that if that tile is a canal, we must head South (well, with all the needed variations, but just to give the idea).

One option is to have the galley we are building head south for a brief survey after dropping off the exploring warriors, while Voyager continues on its present course (heading eastward). I am concerned about the possibility that the canal might head back west rather than south, leading Voyager back to us.
 
I like that plan Trystero, I think we also want to meet the next civ to the east.
 
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