I am just now making the jump from Civ:Rev to Civ IV. Having played all the previous Civ's I do have a general understanding, but the management difference in what I've gotten used to and Civ IV is enormous. I'm looking for advice of what civs to start off playing with, based on my play style. I hate war. I'm a very defensive player. I'd prefer to spread my empire by cultural or religious means, with economic slightly behind that. I do not usually keep pace in the tech race as I'm more likely to flip a city from science to gold than gold to science. I do like having a defensive "army" to protect myself, so I am usually slow to expand and very cautious that I'm able to hold my own territory. However, I do LOVE city growth and big populations. I am very interested in diplomacy and if this is done much better than Civ:Rev then I'd like to use it, since I won't be the only opponent of the rest of the world as the console game plays out. Any opinions for me?