Ugliest start ever

If you think that start is bad, look for Aeson's tundra start from about 2 years ago. It's in the HOF forum (HOF thread). If you can't find it, ask Aeson. Now *THAT* was an ugly start!

Atleast the first image has a chokepoint (canal city!), and room for 3 cities...
 
Chieftess said:
If you think that start is bad, look for Aeson's tundra start from about 2 years ago. It's in the HOF forum (HOF thread). If you can't find it, ask Aeson. Now *THAT* was an ugly start!

This was posted at Apolyton, unfortunately the graphics are gone :sad:
 
thetrooper said:
This was posted at Apolyton, unfortunately the graphics are gone :sad:

I do seem to remember a post here about it, though... I guess it's one of those things that mysteriously vanishes and becomes the stuff legends are made of.
 
Chieftess said:
I do seem to remember a post here about it, though... I guess it's one of those things that mysteriously vanishes and becomes the stuff legends are made of.

We will have to keep looking then. In search for The Holy Grail :D
 
I think my worst start was probably the one where I was so isolated that I actually didn't encounter another civilization until the 18th century. It I didn't know how to do the suicide galley at the time and couldn't find a way off my island. I had tried (but failed) to build the great lighthouse. Needless to say, I was a wee bit behind in the tech race when my neighbors started to call.

I've also started on a position with a few tiles of grassland and plains at the edge of a small land mass that was nearly all tundra with scattered forests. There was one other land mass nearby (only place I could reach with galleys)--occupied by the freakin' Aztecs. They've got to be my least favorite opponents in the early game.
 
thetrooper said:
"Kven" is a scandinavian designation used inn the middle ages about a finnish people from "Bottenviken". Later used for people with finnish origin immigrating to the northern part of Norway. Smart fellow Tolkien - see the resemblance Kven - Quenya. :)

Well, something like that. Quenya translates as simply "the Language" or "the Tongue;" it was originally the only language in Middle-Earth.

On topic -- I started on a Mountain once. Not a terrible start location otherwise, just annoying. The map generator occassionally places start locations on mountains in the Editor.
 
I had a start once on a one-tile-thin peninsula that ended in a small cluster of green. It was easy to defend, i'll say that... :)
 
Cuivienen: you are right... It could reach pop3 and produce a settler, bot not pop4

It could, just build a harbour :p

I can't remember having any particulary bad starts...
 
Gainy bo said:
It could, just build a harbour :p

I can't remember having any particulary bad starts...

Yeah - just build a harbor. Waiting for map making... ;)
 
It's not as bad as some other people's starts, but I've had a pretty bad start as well. I started alone on an island with mostly tundra and mountains, with some forests and one plain as well. Luckily, a couple of forests had game. I also happened to be Egypt in that game, but war chariots were already obsolete by the time I met anyone. I had about four cities by the time Germany founded about three cities on my continent.
 
I would hate it if a newbie goes home and gets this shiny, new civ3 game and thinks it will be the best game ever and starts off in the worst start ever. It would ruin his entire experience, and he would play for a few hours, thinking what the heck to do. And then the cd will be lost in his closet forever :(

Anyways, my worst start had to be on a 1-tile island tundra on the northeastern corner of the minimap.
 
Actually, having no previous games as a frame of reference, such a newbie might jump into the game with a clear head, find a way around the tough start, and get a pretty good game out of it.

Right. Or maybe discover the CD makes a nice stylish coaster in the living room.....
 
My worst start was when I was trying to play by the restrictions of one of the Realms Beyond Epic where you could not research at all (I was not playing the Epic itself, but a random map start with the intention of playing by the Epic's restrictions). I ended up on an island consisting exclusively of tundra, mountains, hills, and forests on tundra. While I was basically able to build seven fishing villages, this was Play the World, so I would need map making to build a boat and since I could not research, I was stuck until somebody came sailing by. I symbolically retired as a caveman in 1492 AD as nobody had sailed by yet.
 
Whoa, those are bad.
One timeI started on a tiny map.
I was on a 2 island tile.
1 was a desert, other was a mountain :p
Sry, no screenie :(
 
Huzzah!!!1
 

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I'm with you Tweedledum. I'm not sure Regent is ridiculously easy--that's chieftan--especially when you're playing Americans or some other civ with a #*%*@ UU/Golden Age. And I'd never just walk around for 15 turns with a first settler--you're just asking for any civ you meet to beat on you, I don't see how you can win, let alone make the top three (unless you're REALLY, REALLY determined and careful). I understand abysmal starting positions are a fact of life, but I'd rather just reload for something manageable, just personal pref. My worst was rather like the mountains screenie at the beginning of the forum, but with a volcano to bury my civ once and a while...fun fun...
 
Two recent bad starts:

Started on a desert tile (yes, my starting position was a DESERT tile). A couple of plain tiles below that. Everything else desert. No fresh water in sight. Moved my worker a bit SW. Encountered a large swathe of tundra. Gave up on the game at this point. This is completely unmodded vanilla Civ.

The my next worse start - I actually played this one. It turns out my continent was entirely desert, tundra or mountains except for two narrow strips of green separated by a huge desert. Here's the continent:

(1/3) Tundra
Strip of Green
Large desert
Strip of Green
Large desert
All mountains
One grassland tile at the very tip.

To make things worse there are NO horses OR iron ANYWHERE on the continent.

There was ONE source of freshwater on the entire continent and it wasn't on my strip of green (the other strip was bigger too). Once I worked this out I prepared for a massive rush of the English who owned the freshwater source. I was also hunting for iron/horses at this point as I didn't realise there weren't ANY on the continent. While building archers, I got my workers to build a road across the large desert seperating us. After over-running the English, I used the workers to do a massive irrigation chain right across the desert to my core cities.

After working out there was NO iron/horses on the entire continent I rushed towards map-making as quickly as possible (as you can see I was pretty behind in tech), built a galley. Luckily the grasslands tile at the tip was separated from another continent by one water tile. So I used the galley as a land-bridge. EDIT: Forgot to mention, at this point the much more advanced Indians landed a settler on my continent and founded a city right in the path all my settlers and troops were headed to to get to the new continent. Their cultural borders expanded so to form a chokehole. Everytime I tried to move my troops across so I could get to my landbridge they kicked me out. So I had to fight another early war (this time with India). Finally found iron (and horses and something besides tundra/desert!). I don't have the tech to connect harbours though so this is useless for my core cities. The sight of all that green was heavenly. Until I discovered all the barbarians living there. My first settler gets killed. As soon as I found my first city, "A Massive Barbarian Uprising" occurs next to it. As I have one puny regular archer guarding it, I move the archer out of the city. Sure enough, all of the huge stack of horsemen go for the (size 1 newly founded) city and carry away some gold. The barbarian problem is so bad that I have to send every worker out with a guard otherwise they don't last long. However, there is NO freshwater on the entire half of the new continent. I finally find some freshwater halfway through the continent, but it is controlled by the Chinese (who it turns out had a wonderful start and are much more advanced than me). I guess you could say this is the worse start that I actually played.
 
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