Unique Builiding Elimination Thread

[Teagen]

Bazaar -33 Easily the best UB in the game...
Burial Tomb- 13 Mostly useless, plus give money to enemies? WTH?
Ceilidh Hall- 6
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 18
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 21
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 29
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 5

 

[redwings1340]

Bazaar -33
Burial Tomb- 10 The Ceilidh hall is probably worse, but if you get a religion, science and food are bigger problems than money (tithe) and happiness (any faith based building). The extra money for enemies makes you a bigger target too.
Ceilidh Hall- 6
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 18
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 21
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 29
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 6 If I had to guess, I would guess that this building was buffed in BNW. You can still get them from legalism, which is probably very worth doing, and the +3 culture now is better than +1 culture with a great work coming some time in the future. It's one of the better cultural buildings now because it actually provides a decent amount of culture immediately.

 

[MantaRevan]

Burial Tomb- 10
Ceilidh Hall- 3
I think I already explained why I don't like this building a page or so back.
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 18
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 21
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 29
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 7 I don't know where all the wat hate is coming from. They provide a ton of culture to wide empires, especially seeing as a university is a building that you basically want in every city anyway. This is like 15-ish per turn early on, and usually around 39 near the end of the game.

 

[DeathwatchBob]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 10
Ceilidh Hall- 3
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 21
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 30
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 7

Added Bazaar back, seemed to have gotten dropped.

Voting down the Ducal Stable since I'd rather have a UB I can build and benefit from in every city.

Up voting Paper Maker for the same reason. It also comes at a time when gpt is low.

 

[vibe96]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 10
Ceilidh Hall- 0
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 21
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 30
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

I think the worst UB is the one you never use. Which in this case is ceilidh hall.
You will probably build wats in your every city, making it really powerful.

 

[DeathwatchBob]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 10
Ceilidh Hall- 0
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

Voting for the same reasons as vibe96 pretty much. Going to have Paper Makers in all my cities. Ikanda is only going to be in all cities if I'm building the Heroic Epic, and it only provides a bonus on pre-gunpowder melee units. The Zulu UA is what makes them the best warmonger civ, not the Ikanda.

 

[sendos]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 11 - maintenance free, stacks well with the bonus follower for every 5 followers of your religion. If you can protect your cities well enough, you shouldn't worry about the increased incentive for others to capture your cities.
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 15 - the Zulu promotions are great but if it becomes useless in Renaissance/industrial era, then it's a rather dull UB.
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 18
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

 

[redwings1340]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 11
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 16 Gunpowder units that have been upgraded from impis with these promotions are really amazing. This building doesn't really become as obsolete or as useless as you're saying it does.
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 15 I couldn't decide what to downvote. I don't want to downvote the same thing twice in a row, so I'm leaving the Burial Tomb alone. I'm downvoting this one because getting a religion without a special religious benefit before the temple is hard. Not a bad building, but it means you have to get a lot of mid/lategame faith, but early game it's going to be difficult, which isn't optimal for a religious player. I'm not sure how to best use this building.
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 28
Satraps Court- 11 works really well with Persia, if another civ had this building, I wouldn't hesitate to downvote this.
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

 

[Sake]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 11
Coffee House- 13
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 16
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 12 - Meh. 2 culture from temple is ok, but it's weakest on the list. This is worse than Wat, because you build universities in every city, and temple not necessarily
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 29 - You can't go wrong with early science and faith
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

 

[jlim201]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 11
Coffee House- 10- I would rather have the production.
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 17- The Zulu promos are great, especially because they carry over, after the building "expires".
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 12 -
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 29 -
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

 

[MantaRevan]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 8
Burial tombs really aren't that game-changing.
Coffee House
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18- The ikanda might "expire", but my triple buffalo promoted rifles and infantry disagree.
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 12 -
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 29 -
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat- 8

 

[sendos]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 9 2 free happiness makes a difference and again, it's maintenance free: so more gpt on the side. Although voting now seems a bit tougher, I don't think burial tomb should go yet.
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 15
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18-
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 9 Not very appealing UB.
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 29 -
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat - 8

 

[vibe96]

Bazaar - 33
Burial Tomb- 10 why wouldn't you like it?
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 12 I never build stables so...
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 9
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 29
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat - 8

 

[Teagen]

Bazaar - 34 I honestly can't justify up voting anything besides Bazaar on here...
Burial Tomb- 7 Very weak UB
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 12
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 9
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 29
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat - 8

 

[NoOneImportant]

Bazaar - 34
Burial Tomb- 7
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 12
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 6 I don't see why people downvote Burial Tomb and not this.
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 30 Science and faith boost at the time it's needed the most.
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 28
Wat - 8

 

[civ54lyfe]

how is Paper Maker not going to win this? seems the story here is what will come in 2nd/3rd

 

[redwings1340]

how is Paper Maker not going to win this? seems the story here is what will come in 2nd/3rd

The paper maker has good competition from the pyramid, stele, and bazaar. I'd personally probably put the paper maker 4th in that line. It's still a great building though. The problem is that it really just gives some nice gold, but doesn't give any more science. The other buildings are all strategies in themselves, while the paper maker is just really nice to have.

 

[jlim201]

Bazaar - 34
Burial Tomb- 4- Giving more gold to the enemy, and who builds temples anyways?
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 12
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 6 .
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 30
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 29- Faith early on, and first pantheon except for celts.
Wat - 8

 

[striker4life360]

Bazaar - 35 - Early game gold is the best kind of gold
Burial Tomb- 4-
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 12
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 6 .
Paper Maker- 31
Pyramid- 30
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 29
Wat - 5 - Culture is nice but not game breaking

 

[DeathwatchBob]

Bazaar - 35
Burial Tomb- 4-
Coffee House - 10
Ducal Stable- 9
Floating Gardens - 25
Hanse- 23
Ikanda - 18
Mud Pyramid Mosque- 6 .
Paper Maker- 32
Pyramid- 30
Satraps Court- 11
Stele- 29
Wat - 5

Paper Maker gives an extremely nice gold bonus in all my cities and puppets.

Ducal Stable is just a bit too limited in what cities it can be built in to stand up to unique buildings that will be in every city.