Unoffical Offical CFC Minecraft Server -- World 2
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yeah each city can have a planet
croxis
Chat room op
Vanilla server is up with a small temporary world while we wait for the mod to update. Have fun
croxis
Chat room op
pvp is on, so there may be natural consequences
croxis
Chat room op
Can't kill me so easy now!
Fundraiser update: We're 75% of the way to an upgraded server!
Fundraiser update: We're 75% of the way to an upgraded server!
croxis
Chat room op
Update on server status:
The server mod which we were using, hmod, is what gives minecraft multiplayer its usability and functionality. However the code was poorly designed and as the game keeps changing and becoming more complicated, the server mod became more and more difficult to update. They have spent two days on it and have been unable to get it to work.
Hmod was due to be sunsetted anyways in favor of a new, better system called bukkit. However bukkit is not quite yet ready for prime time. Several features are missing, such as user permission levels. The devs have discontinued trying to get hmod up to speed to put all their energy into bukkit.
This puts every minecraft server in a bad way. Right now we have no way to protect our server from griefers. As a result major fires have been lit under the bukkit devs to get it up to speed.
I've been tracking the situation closely and I feel there are enough bukkit plugins to help protect our main world. I am going to begin to build a test bukkit server to get everything configured and set up before I deploy it to our existing world. We will lose some plugins in the process until I or some one else remake them.
I project the build process taking about 24-48 hours to configure and test and deploy. I wont be on in game much so the best way to contact me will be by pm or in the cfc chatroom. Until then I will leave the vanilla server up with your enjoyment. If it gets well used or griefed to oblivion let me know and I'll make a new vanilla world using a different map script.
The server mod which we were using, hmod, is what gives minecraft multiplayer its usability and functionality. However the code was poorly designed and as the game keeps changing and becoming more complicated, the server mod became more and more difficult to update. They have spent two days on it and have been unable to get it to work.
Hmod was due to be sunsetted anyways in favor of a new, better system called bukkit. However bukkit is not quite yet ready for prime time. Several features are missing, such as user permission levels. The devs have discontinued trying to get hmod up to speed to put all their energy into bukkit.
This puts every minecraft server in a bad way. Right now we have no way to protect our server from griefers. As a result major fires have been lit under the bukkit devs to get it up to speed.
I've been tracking the situation closely and I feel there are enough bukkit plugins to help protect our main world. I am going to begin to build a test bukkit server to get everything configured and set up before I deploy it to our existing world. We will lose some plugins in the process until I or some one else remake them.
I project the build process taking about 24-48 hours to configure and test and deploy. I wont be on in game much so the best way to contact me will be by pm or in the cfc chatroom. Until then I will leave the vanilla server up with your enjoyment. If it gets well used or griefed to oblivion let me know and I'll make a new vanilla world using a different map script.
croxis
Chat room op
No. Map worlds are very much separate and portable. What I need to change is code-level, not world data-level
Further explanation:
Our minecraft server operates at different levels:
Vanilla non-world data (configuration, ban lists, etc)
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Vanilla server <---------------> World data (stored in a folder called world)
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Server mod which "hooks" into the vanilla server to add functionality and allow plugins <-------> Mod data (config mostly)
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Various plugins which add even more functionality <-------------> Plugin data (plugin config, towny data, block placement logs, etc)
When Notch updates the vanilla server, the old server mod hooks no longer works. Notch also scrambles the code before it is released, so each update the people who create the server mods have to decode the scrambling to rehook it in properly. Hmod, for a lack of a better phrase, was designed for an older style of vanilla server and so is breaking internally.
At no point is any of the world data involved
However because of the switch to bukkit the lower part of that chart is changing. What that means exactly is still not clear to me. Some plugins, such as the block placement logger, have been ported. Others, such as towny, are still in progress and are not quite ready yet. The plugin authors are trying the best they can to transfer the plugin data from hmod to bukkit, but that might not be possible in all cases.
Now, I need to study calculus for a bit then I'll get cracking at replacing the lower half of the graph
Further explanation:
Our minecraft server operates at different levels:
Vanilla non-world data (configuration, ban lists, etc)
^
|
|
|
V
Vanilla server <---------------> World data (stored in a folder called world)
^
|
|
|
V
Server mod which "hooks" into the vanilla server to add functionality and allow plugins <-------> Mod data (config mostly)
^
|
|
|
V
Various plugins which add even more functionality <-------------> Plugin data (plugin config, towny data, block placement logs, etc)
When Notch updates the vanilla server, the old server mod hooks no longer works. Notch also scrambles the code before it is released, so each update the people who create the server mods have to decode the scrambling to rehook it in properly. Hmod, for a lack of a better phrase, was designed for an older style of vanilla server and so is breaking internally.
At no point is any of the world data involved
However because of the switch to bukkit the lower part of that chart is changing. What that means exactly is still not clear to me. Some plugins, such as the block placement logger, have been ported. Others, such as towny, are still in progress and are not quite ready yet. The plugin authors are trying the best they can to transfer the plugin data from hmod to bukkit, but that might not be possible in all cases.
Now, I need to study calculus for a bit then I'll get cracking at replacing the lower half of the graph
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Croxis' temporary server is...chaotic. Lava below is, mobs everywhere and one mistake can mean death.
The H.M.S. Rapture offers safety and shelter to the lost. While we struggle through these dark days, Captan Kan' offers a position aboard the vessel, regardless of former or future faction affiliations, while we ride out the storm!
The H.M.S. Rapture offers safety and shelter to the lost. While we struggle through these dark days, Captan Kan' offers a position aboard the vessel, regardless of former or future faction affiliations, while we ride out the storm!
SnowmanXIV
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Umm, earlier in the thread, Croxis said that starting a new map would allow the new items (that one blue ore, squids -- if NPC's are turned on --, etc.) to be added to it... Is this the same for SP? I rarely play SP but I might play it more now.
croxis
Chat room op
Squids will spawn in water, old or new chunks. However blocks are only created on chunk generation. So anything made pre-patch will not get those blocks. You have to get new chunks generated.
In other news, I have a todo list/roadmap to get our server over to bukkit.
In other news, I have a todo list/roadmap to get our server over to bukkit.
croxis
Chat room op
There is a "kmod" project which might be an interm solution, however there are still bugs being reported on it and I don't want to put it on the live server yet.
croxis
Chat room op
No clue. This is vanilla minecraft
This happened to me immediately after I died, and keep respawning into lava, and then disconnected, and tried to reconnect, but got the same.
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
I'd like to donate my medieval town for potential future servers!
http://www.box.net/shared/z23pre73gu
http://www.box.net/shared/z23pre73gu
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