V Leaders Reborn: Which Leaders Do You Want Next?

Which Civ5 leaders do you want to see next in the V Leaders Reborn series? (Choose Your Top 5)

  • Ahmad al-Mansur (Morocco)

    Votes: 13 19.7%
  • Ashurbanipal (Assyria)

    Votes: 15 22.7%
  • Attila (the Huns)

    Votes: 13 19.7%
  • Augustus Caesar (Rome)

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Boudicca (Celts - Britons?)

    Votes: 8 12.1%
  • Casimir (Poland)

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Catherine (Russia)

    Votes: 16 24.2%
  • Elizabeth (England)

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Enrico Dandolo (Venice - Italy?)

    Votes: 8 12.1%
  • Gustavus Adolphus (Sweden)

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Haile Selassie (Ethiopia)

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Harald Bluetooth (Denmark)

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Harun al-Rashid (Arabia)

    Votes: 9 13.6%
  • Hiawatha (Iroquois)

    Votes: 17 25.8%
  • Isabella (Spain)

    Votes: 12 18.2%
  • Kamehameha (Polynesia - Hawai'i?)

    Votes: 12 18.2%
  • Maria (Portugal)

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Napoleon (France)

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • Nebuchadnezzar (Babylon)

    Votes: 9 13.6%
  • Oda Nobunaga (Japan)

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Pocatello (Shoshone)

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Ramses (Egypt)

    Votes: 15 22.7%
  • Ramkhamhaeng (Siam)

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Sejong (Korea)

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Theodora (Byzantium)

    Votes: 12 18.2%
  • Washington (America)

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Wu Zetian (China)

    Votes: 16 24.2%

  • Total voters
    66
Thanks for setting up the survey. It is useful to know which Leaders people want to see most.

To clarify what I said I said that the next release would be one of Ashurbanipal, Isabella, Dandolo and Oda Nobunaga - not that these will be the next four released. It is most likely the next release will be Nobunaga (a new CIVITAS Leader) followed by Isabella (swapping art for JFD's Leaders).

As might be obvious my time for modding has reduced lately so that's why I won't commit to dates.

Thanks for the clarification, @Deliverator.

Excited to see both Oda and Izzy, whenever you’re able to finish them.

Please let me know if you need any help with design/writing for Ashurbanipal. Mesopotamia is definitely my thing. :)
 
France's "Salic Law" meant that a woman could not ever legally be the reigning monarch.

Yes and no.
Yes in a sense that the "Salic Law" exclude the woman from being the reigning monarch.
No in a sense that nobody cared about the "Salic Law" until a particular event, and Eleanor / Catherine didn't have royal blood so that is why they were just "consort" and not "reigning" (even if they held more power than many king before or after them).

Basicly, the french used the masculine primogeniture but would kind of okay if a male potential heir pretend the crown through her mother... Until the King of England claimed the throne. The Salic Law "resurected" from the abyss of memory just as a way to prevent the Plantagenet to take the French throne. So far, the throne always went down from father to son (kind of a miracle in 350 years), so they could still justify it that way to not be legally annexed by England.

The English were not dumb: they knew the French will do everything in their power to prevent them to gain the throne and saw the "Salic Law" for what it is: a dumb excuse to deny them the French throne. But as always, the French went too far and kind of make the English angry. This kind of lead the infamous English / French rivalry.
 
As Gandhi is a leader, we can easily live with Catherine De'Medici. She was much closer to actually being one.

I'm really happy for this mod work, excellent stuff. Might actually redesign the civs as a submod and do a custom package (When they're done).
 
I think the most essential additions right now would be Assurbanipal, al-Mansur and Hiawatha, since each of them would add a missing civ. Catherine would also be a good addition as an alt for Peter’s Russia.

I’m looking forward to Isabella, presuming she’s still coming next based on what Deliverator said months ago.

Really love this project.
 
I think the most essential additions right now would be Assurbanipal, al-Mansur and Hiawatha, since each of them would add a missing civ. Catherine would also be a good addition as an alt for Peter’s Russia.

I’m looking forward to Isabella, presuming she’s still coming next based on what Deliverator said months ago.

Really love this project.

Right now I'm not sure whether I'm going to do any more Leaders in this project due to the amount of work involved in producing each.

If I do, it will be of the Leader "art swap" variety like Maria Theresa, Askiya and Pacal rather than new Alt Leaders or whole New Civilizations. An issue is that some of the Candidates for an "art swap" haven't been updated recently or have reported issues on Steam e.g. JFD's Isabella or Elizabeth. There are abandoned mods for Ashurbanipal and Sejong. Gedemo has made Catherine, Ahmad al-Mansur, Wu Zetian, Napoleon, Attila, Washington, Ramesses II and Theodora while Cave Johnson has Nebuchadnezzar.

Mostly the issue is the amount of time and work involved in producing these conversions to a high quality. To give some context here is a response I gave to the question "How involved is the process of converting Civ 5 leaders into Civ 6 leader?"

The short answer is "quite involved".

I have automated the process as far as possible for the Leader conversions and have run the majority of Leaders through the process. However there is still quite a lot to do to finish each Leader.

1) Obtain the high quality DX10/11 textures for Leader in question from Civ 5 using Ninja Ripper. Give all these textures the correct names (I have a script to help with this but still needs some manual effort).

2) Create and polish all the different texture maps for each Material in the Leader - keep going until the model looks good! (Civ VI uses a different rendering model to Civ V with more types of map needed for a high quality result e.g. Metalness and Gloss are separate rather than just a single Specular map)

3) Make the soundbank for the Leader speech using Wwise. (Steffalon wrote a program to inject the sound timings into the Leader asset so that step is automated.)

4) Create the 2D art - loading images, portrait icon, background, etc. (Fairly quick.)
 
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I figured the process was complicated.

I sincerely hope you do end up making a few more at least. Your work is top quality and vastly expands the game.

If there is anything I can do to help truncate some of the drudgery please let me know.
 
Won’t the ones sitting down look kind of silly in civ 6? I’d want Pocatello if not for the fact that he is sitting on a hillside. He would look ridiculous with the camera angle and sterile black backdrop in civ 6

Hiawatha on the other hand seems ideal, because he just stands there. He’s possibly the most stiff looking civ 5 leaderscene
 
No in a sense that nobody cared about the "Salic Law" until a particular event, and Eleanor / Catherine didn't have royal blood so that is why they were just "consort" and not "reigning" (even if they held more power than many king before or after them).
Well, Eleanor had Royal Blood, just not Bourbon/Valois Royal Blood (although she probably even had that somewhere down her pretty, heraldry-decorated family lineage chart), and Catherine's family was richer and more affluent (and more in with the Papacy) than many Royal Families, and were tantamount to Royalty. The concept of Royals only marrying, "peers of their station," until relatively recently (even, the late Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, was first cousin to Constantine II, last King of the Hellenes, and nephew of the current Queen of Denmark's father) meant that it was EXTREMELY rare, almost unheard of, that a Royal Consort didn't have Royal Blood. Archduke Franz Ferdinand's desire to marry Sophie, the scion of a minor Slovak noble house, led to several years of bitter wrangling with his uncle, Emperor and King Franz Joseph of the Dual Monarchy of Austria-Hungary, who finally relented, but declared their marriage would be a morganatic one, and stripped him of access to the royal opera balcony, public functions, and other privileges while together (he had to attend as though a bachelor, albeit an ineligible one) - and that included the bullet proof Imperial touring carriage, which which is why they were in an open automobile that tragic day in Sarajevo in June, 1914...

Also, the real trigger point of the French Revolutionary War was not the shock of the Revolution or the threat to the rule of more traditional Monarchs (though that certainly helped, as did fearmongering by emigres nobles), but the response to a message delivered by a swift courier from Vienna upon the announcement of the trial of Louis XVI, written by Joseph, Holy Roman Emperor, Archduke of Austria, and a whole passel of other titles, who said that all of the lands under his hegemony, or in his vassalage to him, or who could be swayed by alliance, or debt of honour or precedent, would declare war on France if any harm came to his sister, Marie Antoinette, the Queen Consort of France.

So, no, to day Royal Consorts, for the great majority of European history and instances, lacked Royal Blood would be very incorrect. In fact, given the heavy inter-marriage as is, they very often already had some Royal Blood somewhere down the line of the family they were marrying into.
 
Won’t the ones sitting down look kind of silly in civ 6? I’d want Pocatello if not for the fact that he is sitting on a hillside. He would look ridiculous with the camera angle and sterile black backdrop in civ 6

Hiawatha on the other hand seems ideal, because he just stands there. He’s possibly the most stiff looking civ 5 leaderscene
Yeah when I get to those I think I'll likely just take their model and copy them onto a civ6 skeleton instead of converting the civ5 model
 
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