VB2-Mayan Melee
- Thread starter vbraun
- Start date
1250 AD (0)
Looks bad, not enough Cavalry avalaible, Pikemen at sight, check what I can get for peace:
4 workers and WM, they are poor and will be poor so I doubt we can get too much better deals
Its a deal, lets build up our army again and attack with artillery support, no rush, we will win surely if we can get UN (BTW do we have a bad reputation?)
IBT
ToG researched>Magnetism (6 turns, +18gpt)
Utrecht: Library>Rax
Arnhem: Harbor>Granary
Lagartero: Bank>Cavalry
1255 AD (1)
Worker management
IBT
Amsterdam: Colosseum>University
Copan: Colosseum>University
1260 AD (2)
Same
IBT
Kamil-whatever: Court>Harbor
Bruck: Temple>Rax
Coba: Temple>Musketman
1265 AD (3)
Machette time. (jungles)
1270 AD (4)
Give no mercy. Bwahahaa
IBT
Calakmul: Market>Cavalry
1275 AD (5)
Were almost through now
IBT
Magnetism researched>Steam Power(10 turns) (Byzantines got Nationalism, they head for Communism, Fascism etc. line)
Constantinople finished Magellans Voyage
1280 AD (6)
Those damn jungles are harder than I thought (Im okay, no problems, really )
IBT
Palenque: University>Cavalry
1285 AD (7)
Lets see what I will get to this turn. Byzantines sneak attack us with Modern Armors and such
IBT
Uaxactun: Court>Granary
1290 AD (8)
Galley has almost sailed around the world
IBT
Utrecht: Rax>Market
Piedras Negras: Courthouse>Musketman
Xcalumkin: Court>Rax
1295 AD (9)
Trade with Portugal: Incense, Ivory and WM for 160g, 46gpt and WM
IBT
Quirigua: Market>Bank
Uxmal: Temple>Aqueduct
1300 AD (10)
Yep
Save
Looks bad, not enough Cavalry avalaible, Pikemen at sight, check what I can get for peace:
4 workers and WM, they are poor and will be poor so I doubt we can get too much better deals
Its a deal, lets build up our army again and attack with artillery support, no rush, we will win surely if we can get UN (BTW do we have a bad reputation?)
IBT
ToG researched>Magnetism (6 turns, +18gpt)
Utrecht: Library>Rax
Arnhem: Harbor>Granary
Lagartero: Bank>Cavalry
1255 AD (1)
Worker management
IBT
Amsterdam: Colosseum>University
Copan: Colosseum>University
1260 AD (2)
Same
IBT
Kamil-whatever: Court>Harbor
Bruck: Temple>Rax
Coba: Temple>Musketman
1265 AD (3)
Machette time. (jungles)
1270 AD (4)
Give no mercy. Bwahahaa
IBT
Calakmul: Market>Cavalry
1275 AD (5)
Were almost through now
IBT
Magnetism researched>Steam Power(10 turns) (Byzantines got Nationalism, they head for Communism, Fascism etc. line)
Constantinople finished Magellans Voyage
1280 AD (6)
Those damn jungles are harder than I thought (Im okay, no problems, really
)IBT
Palenque: University>Cavalry
1285 AD (7)
Lets see what I will get to this turn. Byzantines sneak attack us with Modern Armors and such
IBT
Uaxactun: Court>Granary
1290 AD (8)
Galley has almost sailed around the world
IBT
Utrecht: Rax>Market
Piedras Negras: Courthouse>Musketman
Xcalumkin: Court>Rax
1295 AD (9)
Trade with Portugal: Incense, Ivory and WM for 160g, 46gpt and WM
IBT
Quirigua: Market>Bank
Uxmal: Temple>Aqueduct
1300 AD (10)
Yep
Save
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
It sounds like I didn't set us up very well for the Second Austrian War. My apologies to the team.
1-vbraun - MIA
2-Bugs - On Deck
3-Andvruss
4-Ville - Just Played
5-Oddible - Up
1-vbraun - MIA
2-Bugs - On Deck
3-Andvruss
4-Ville - Just Played
5-Oddible - Up
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
lol
All it would take is 2 and they could blitz our entire nation!
--
Got it
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
The Save
Initial thoughts
Steam Power in 5, which means the decision on whether to go to
Scientific Method and advance to Electronics to get Hoover's or
get Factories now. We don't have Nationalism thought, need
rifles, Byzantines and Portugal got em already. Hmm.
There are fireworks going off everywhere! What has Ville been feeding these Mayans?!?
IBT
Yaxchilan: Bank>Musket
Arnhem: Granary>Market
Lagartero: Cavalry>Cavalry
1305AD - 1
I trade Inca Metallurgy for Map and 20 to keep them in the
game. No sense in letting the Byzantines get any big ideas.
IBT
Klagenfurt: Temple>Courthouse
Weiz: Temple>Courthouse
Sumerians are building Smith's
Portugese have produced Newton's University!
1310AD - 2
Tikal > Palace
Chichen Itza > Smith's in 11
IBT
Lost our Spices.
Hittites: Spices for Horses and 30
Palenque: Cavalry>Frigate
Kaminaljuyu: Harbor>Marketplace
Tulum: Courthouse>Aqueduct
1315AD - 3
Upgrade Galley to Galleon
I take a peek at our Navy... still looking... oh my. A bunch of land
lubbers are yees? Well, guess we didn't really need one before
now. Probably don't need much of one if the priority is to clean
Austria off our continent first. Still, would be nice to have a
couple ships afloat.
IBT
Breclev: Temple>Courthouse
1320AD - 4
Uaxactun: Switch from Granary to Aqueduct
Xcalumkin: Switch Barracks to Aqueduct
Coba: Mustket>Aqueduct
Villach: Musket>Temple
Steam in 1, readying the workers and backing science to 50%
for some end-o-the research cash.
Drop Lux to 10%
IBT
Steam Power > Electricity
Going straight to Scientific Method. I'm going to trade Steam for
Nationalism post haste (whispers from crowd about giving away
the farm) and hopefully by the time we've got Electricity someone
will have Medicine and we can use Tikal (Palace in 41) to get
Theory of Evolution (which I recommend we take straight to
Electronics and start work on Hoover's). If we can pull off ToE we
will have enough tech to trade for the other side of the tree.
Copan: Univ>Bank
Quirigua riots.
Byzantines produce Smiths
1325AD - 5
Portugal: Trade Steam for Nationalism, WM, 8g, 8gpt
Byzantines: Trade Steam for WM, 650g, 66gpt
That's going to expire during Andvruss
Science to 90% Electricity in 8.
Chichen Itza: Smith's>University -237sh
Workers to main rail lines.
IBT
Chichen Itza: Univ>Rifle
Bonampak: Courhouse>Bank
Uaxactun: Aqueduct>Market
Mayapan: Temple>Aque
1330AD - 6
Hittites: Embassy
Tulum: Buy Aqueduct for 120
Ake: >Aqueduct, Buy for 28
Amsterdam: Buy Univ for 136
IBT
Amsterdam: Univ>Rifle
Tulum: Aque>Temple
Ake: Aque>Temple
1335AD - 7
Byzantines get Fascism
We're still a Republic. Intentional?
Anarchy!
In 5...
IBT
Uxmal celebrates our Anarchy, we'll have to keep an eye on those troublemakers.
1340AD - 8
Workers
IBT
Nada
1345AD - 9
Hittites: RoP get 3g, WM, I figure the Hittites are the pivot point
on their continent. In a battle with either super power, we want
to control the Hittites.
IBT
Byzantines bought us an Embassy
1350AD - 10
All quiet.
Parting thoughts
Railroad main line is just under 50% complete.
Workers on a line will end up in the next big city for your
direction. I think the only gap you'll find is between Copan and
Quirigua.
.
Initial thoughts
Steam Power in 5, which means the decision on whether to go to
Scientific Method and advance to Electronics to get Hoover's or
get Factories now. We don't have Nationalism thought, need
rifles, Byzantines and Portugal got em already. Hmm.
There are fireworks going off everywhere! What has Ville been feeding these Mayans?!?
IBT
Yaxchilan: Bank>Musket
Arnhem: Granary>Market
Lagartero: Cavalry>Cavalry
1305AD - 1
I trade Inca Metallurgy for Map and 20 to keep them in the
game. No sense in letting the Byzantines get any big ideas.
IBT
Klagenfurt: Temple>Courthouse
Weiz: Temple>Courthouse
Sumerians are building Smith's
Portugese have produced Newton's University!
1310AD - 2
Tikal > Palace
Chichen Itza > Smith's in 11
IBT
Lost our Spices.
Hittites: Spices for Horses and 30
Palenque: Cavalry>Frigate
Kaminaljuyu: Harbor>Marketplace
Tulum: Courthouse>Aqueduct
1315AD - 3
Upgrade Galley to Galleon
I take a peek at our Navy... still looking... oh my. A bunch of land
lubbers are yees? Well, guess we didn't really need one before
now. Probably don't need much of one if the priority is to clean
Austria off our continent first. Still, would be nice to have a
couple ships afloat.
IBT
Breclev: Temple>Courthouse
1320AD - 4
Uaxactun: Switch from Granary to Aqueduct
Xcalumkin: Switch Barracks to Aqueduct
Coba: Mustket>Aqueduct
Villach: Musket>Temple
Steam in 1, readying the workers and backing science to 50%
for some end-o-the research cash.
Drop Lux to 10%
IBT
Steam Power > Electricity
Going straight to Scientific Method. I'm going to trade Steam for
Nationalism post haste (whispers from crowd about giving away
the farm) and hopefully by the time we've got Electricity someone
will have Medicine and we can use Tikal (Palace in 41) to get
Theory of Evolution (which I recommend we take straight to
Electronics and start work on Hoover's). If we can pull off ToE we
will have enough tech to trade for the other side of the tree.
Copan: Univ>Bank
Quirigua riots.
Byzantines produce Smiths
1325AD - 5
Portugal: Trade Steam for Nationalism, WM, 8g, 8gpt
Byzantines: Trade Steam for WM, 650g, 66gpt
That's going to expire during Andvruss
Science to 90% Electricity in 8.
Chichen Itza: Smith's>University -237sh
Workers to main rail lines.
IBT
Chichen Itza: Univ>Rifle
Bonampak: Courhouse>Bank
Uaxactun: Aqueduct>Market
Mayapan: Temple>Aque
1330AD - 6
Hittites: Embassy
Tulum: Buy Aqueduct for 120
Ake: >Aqueduct, Buy for 28
Amsterdam: Buy Univ for 136
IBT
Amsterdam: Univ>Rifle
Tulum: Aque>Temple
Ake: Aque>Temple
1335AD - 7
Byzantines get Fascism
We're still a Republic. Intentional?
Anarchy!
In 5...
IBT
Uxmal celebrates our Anarchy, we'll have to keep an eye on those troublemakers.
1340AD - 8
Workers
IBT
Nada
1345AD - 9
Hittites: RoP get 3g, WM, I figure the Hittites are the pivot point
on their continent. In a battle with either super power, we want
to control the Hittites.
IBT
Byzantines bought us an Embassy
1350AD - 10
All quiet.
Parting thoughts
Railroad main line is just under 50% complete.
Workers on a line will end up in the next big city for your
direction. I think the only gap you'll find is between Copan and
Quirigua.
.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
That puts the game on: ME!
1-vbraun - MIA
2-Bugs - UP
3-Andvruss
4-Ville
5-Oddible - Just Played
I take it we're going for democracy?
1-vbraun - MIA
2-Bugs - UP
3-Andvruss
4-Ville
5-Oddible - Just Played
I take it we're going for democracy?
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
I may have been remiss in not checking in about the gov't change. Just figured that we're in a bit of a builder period getting our infrastructure and military to match what's going on on the other continent. Finishing off Austria shouldn't cause us too much war weariness.
We can kick it to something more aggressive when we start taking on the other side in order to sustain a longer war.
Interested in hearing other views tho, just working from my own narrow experience with gov'ts. Is there some penalty for being so large that would have benefited us staying in Republic over going to Democracy? Other benefits to Republic? Did I blunder?
We can kick it to something more aggressive when we start taking on the other side in order to sustain a longer war.
Interested in hearing other views tho, just working from my own narrow experience with gov'ts. Is there some penalty for being so large that would have benefited us staying in Republic over going to Democracy? Other benefits to Republic? Did I blunder?
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
I don't think so. We're in build and research mode anyway, so I think it is a good move.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight 1350 AD Looks like we get electricity in 45 turns no matter where our science slider is. Well put it at 0%. Zero???? That doesnt make sense.
Ah were in anarchy. Must have killed that brain cell. Gotta be careful with them, I dont have too many left.
Not a lot to do.
IBT The Inca want to talk. Trade maps? You only have 22G? I dont think so.
1. 1355 AD Heres a thought: Mayans in Space! We could do that.
Due to the auto worker moves that was a short turn.
IBT The Mayan Democracy is born.
2. 1360 AD Science to 80%, Electricity in 5.
Change a couple of builds and MM accordingly. Amsterdam starts a Bank. Hurry the temple in Graz, and since there are just way too many grumpy faces in the city, they find their wienershnitzal missing from their ice boxes.
IBT Palenque: Frigate=> Frigate
Graz: Temple=> Court
Calakmul: Cav=> Univ.
Xcalumkin: Duct=> Library
3. 1365 AD 
Ive been workin on the railroad.
IBT Dzibil something: Temple=>Court
4. 1370 AD See 1365 AD.
IBT Chichen: Rifle=> Bank
Quirigua: Library=> Univ.
Byz start US.
5. 1375 AD Strategic rail net is almost complete. We can now defend any part of our empire. Science down 10%.
Theodora wont sell us Industrialization.
6. 1380 AD Science down another 10%
IBT Electricity comes in. Medicine next, due in 5 @ +20 gpt.
7. 1385 AD Trade time with Theodora: For Furs and Electricity we get Industrialization, 151G & 34 GPT.
Change Chichen, Copan, Amsterdam, Lagertero and Palenque over to Factories
IBT Our Frigate gets attacked by a pirate. Then I see a Byzantine Droman move. Then our Frigate is sunk by another pirate.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who commissioned those pirates.
8. 1390 AD More railing.
IBT The Hittites would like an MPP. Let me think about it.
Arnhem: Market=> Library
Piedras: Library=> market
9. 1395 AD - *yawn*
10. 1400 AD -
After Action Report: All cities are now attached to the Military Rail Net. Now we just need to rail our core. It would be really nice to get a second core up and running, but well need a leader.
Medicine due in two. Another five for Sci Meth and we should be able to build ToE. Dont sell Medicine until ToE is assured.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/VB2,_1400_AD.SAV
Not a lot to do.
IBT The Inca want to talk. Trade maps? You only have 22G? I dont think so.
1. 1355 AD Heres a thought: Mayans in Space! We could do that.
Due to the auto worker moves that was a short turn.
IBT The Mayan Democracy is born.
2. 1360 AD Science to 80%, Electricity in 5.
Change a couple of builds and MM accordingly. Amsterdam starts a Bank. Hurry the temple in Graz, and since there are just way too many grumpy faces in the city, they find their wienershnitzal missing from their ice boxes.
IBT Palenque: Frigate=> Frigate
Graz: Temple=> Court
Calakmul: Cav=> Univ.
Xcalumkin: Duct=> Library
3. 1365 AD
Ive been workin on the railroad.IBT Dzibil something: Temple=>Court
4. 1370 AD See 1365 AD.
IBT Chichen: Rifle=> Bank
Quirigua: Library=> Univ.
Byz start US.
5. 1375 AD Strategic rail net is almost complete. We can now defend any part of our empire. Science down 10%.
Theodora wont sell us Industrialization.
6. 1380 AD Science down another 10%
IBT Electricity comes in. Medicine next, due in 5 @ +20 gpt.
7. 1385 AD Trade time with Theodora: For Furs and Electricity we get Industrialization, 151G & 34 GPT.
Change Chichen, Copan, Amsterdam, Lagertero and Palenque over to Factories
IBT Our Frigate gets attacked by a pirate. Then I see a Byzantine Droman move. Then our Frigate is sunk by another pirate.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who commissioned those pirates.8. 1390 AD More railing.
IBT The Hittites would like an MPP. Let me think about it.
Arnhem: Market=> Library
Piedras: Library=> market
9. 1395 AD - *yawn*
10. 1400 AD -
After Action Report: All cities are now attached to the Military Rail Net. Now we just need to rail our core. It would be really nice to get a second core up and running, but well need a leader.
Medicine due in two. Another five for Sci Meth and we should be able to build ToE. Dont sell Medicine until ToE is assured.
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/VB2,_1400_AD.SAV
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Roster Check:
1-vbraun - MIA
2-Bugs - Just Played
3-Andvruss - UP
4-Ville - On Deck
5-Oddible
1-vbraun - MIA
2-Bugs - Just Played
3-Andvruss - UP
4-Ville - On Deck
5-Oddible
Oddible
signal / noise > 1
We might consider upgrading some units now that we have Nationalism.
vbraun
Raytracing
Sry for being missing in action. But it looks like a good time to jump back in if you would like. This would currently be my only SG so i would have more time. So would any of you like me to jump back in? 
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Why don't we slot you in after andvruss
Bugs
Andvruss - UP
vbraun - On Deck
Ville
Oddible
I started out fifth in this rotation and now I'm lead-off.
Bugs
Andvruss - UP
vbraun - On Deck
Ville
Oddible
I started out fifth in this rotation and now I'm lead-off.
vbraun
Raytracing
Just depends on how you right it. See:
vbraun - On Deck
Ville
Oddible
Bugs
Andvruss - UP
vbraun - On Deck
Ville
Oddible
Bugs
Andvruss - UP
IBT: Portugal starts Universal Sufferage
1405: Let me remind everyone to cut down every forest, because railraoding them doesnt affect shield production, so a normal grassland tile would be 2 2 2 and a railroaded forest would be 1 2 2.
IBT: We learn Medicine-Sci Meth
Copan factory-bank
Tulum court-harbor
Wiener Neustadt temple-court
1410: RR
IBT: byzantines declare war on portugal
Trade furs and incense to the Hitties for spices, WM 1 gold, 2gpt
Sumeria delcares war on Portugal
Cihchen Iztca factory-bank
Lazapa bank-colosseum
Kabah court-barracks
Xcalkin lib-market
1415: Stuff
IBT: Uaxactuin market-harbor
Mayapan barracks-court
1420: Railroad
1425: Same
IBT: Landeck court-market
1430: Hm
IBT: Austria and Byzantines sign an alliance against Portugal
We learn Sci Meth-Atomic Theory
Chicne Iztca bank-Universal Sufferage (prebuild)
Copan bank-cathedral
1435: Tikal switches to ToE at a loss of 160 shields
IBT: Amsterdam factory-bank
Tikal ToE-factory
We learn Atomic Theory and Electronics. Start Rep Parts
Arhem lib-bank
1440:Make rails
1445: Stuff
Next player can upgrade units if they want to.
1405: Let me remind everyone to cut down every forest, because railraoding them doesnt affect shield production, so a normal grassland tile would be 2 2 2 and a railroaded forest would be 1 2 2.
IBT: We learn Medicine-Sci Meth
Copan factory-bank
Tulum court-harbor
Wiener Neustadt temple-court
1410: RR
IBT: byzantines declare war on portugal
Trade furs and incense to the Hitties for spices, WM 1 gold, 2gpt
Sumeria delcares war on Portugal
Cihchen Iztca factory-bank
Lazapa bank-colosseum
Kabah court-barracks
Xcalkin lib-market
1415: Stuff
IBT: Uaxactuin market-harbor
Mayapan barracks-court
1420: Railroad
1425: Same
IBT: Landeck court-market
1430: Hm
IBT: Austria and Byzantines sign an alliance against Portugal
We learn Sci Meth-Atomic Theory
Chicne Iztca bank-Universal Sufferage (prebuild)
Copan bank-cathedral
1435: Tikal switches to ToE at a loss of 160 shields
IBT: Amsterdam factory-bank
Tikal ToE-factory
We learn Atomic Theory and Electronics. Start Rep Parts
Arhem lib-bank
1440:Make rails
1445: Stuff
Next player can upgrade units if they want to.
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