very very bad lag after installing new patch

The_J · Jun 19, 2012

mmhh...I guess now only the devs can help :ack:

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Txurce · Jun 19, 2012

I am also having the same lag issues unless I drop my video down to low all the way across. I didn't try the game-core threading fix, because I have a quad core.

Sinatra · Jun 22, 2012

i have to say, i'm in the "shoot them" camp. this patch should NEVER have seen the light of day.

i have a dell alienware laptop, specs:

i7, 8 cores, 2670QM, 2.2ghz
8 gigs ram
750gig HD
nvidia GT 555m 3gigs

my machine used to rock civ. this patch SLAUGHTERS it. slow beyond words, can't focus or click on units, unresponsive, says the turn is over when it isn't, units forget movement commands, and on and on... time between turns is EXCRUCIATING. and of course, all saved games ruined and unplayable.

i have the game of the year edition, plus i DL'd korea and wonders DLC right before this patch came out.

i haven't tried the =0 fix yet, but making civ think my computer has one core instead of 8, while probably a plausible workaround, is hardly a desirable one.

all my drivers are updated. (and btw, i have the intel / nvidia hybrid graphics. the nvidia drivers are from their website, 15 May 12)

someone should lose a job over this. it really makes them look bad. i don't blame the devs, i blame some idiot in management who probably wanted this out right before GnK.

LAME and SHAME on you civ! clean up your act!

Txurce · Jun 22, 2012

Sinatra said:
i have to say, i'm in the "shoot them" camp. this patch should NEVER have seen the light of day.

someone should lose a job over this. it really makes them look bad. i don't blame the devs, i blame some idiot in management who probably wanted this out right before GnK.

LAME and SHAME on you civ! clean up your act!

I'm having similar problems, not as bad, but totally disagree. The game was obviously tested, at least by the Frankenstein group. Most players are having no meaningful delay issues. Delaying the release may have accomplished little, other than annoying everyone who's been dying to play G&K. I wish I wasn't one of the unlucky ones, but have no problem being part of the free test group that will help them isolate the issue that much faster.

In the meantime, have you tried playing on strategic view?

linuxarchitect · Jun 22, 2012

I have a brand new install, with gods+kings. Incredible delay between actions, e.g. 60 seconds after last unit move and next turn prompt. This early in the game, e.g. one city and three units on default settings.

Suggestions? I'm ready to ask for a refund until the problem is fixed.

The_J · Jun 22, 2012

Did you try to disable the game core threading, like suggested in different threads?

linuxarchitect · Jun 22, 2012

I'm testing the disable core thread solution. It seems to fix most of the lag issues in the game that I resumed so looking good so far.

Lord Gruin · Jun 24, 2012

I feel that those of us who still have this problem with vanilla Civ V are now ugly step children now that G&K has come online. I've noticed that some players have some pretty darn good equipment, much better than mine. It seems that there must be some other fix than just turning game core threading off.

timtofly · Jun 24, 2012

DLC has a sneaky way of doing that. We were warned.

On topic, it was the patch that needs work, and that has little to do with G&K when it comes to the core capability and they do seem to be attempting to straighten it all out.

I_pity_the_fool · Jun 24, 2012

dshirk said:
For testing purposes, go ahead and disable the gamecore threading in your config.ini, and see if it helps. If it does, please also post the top 3 sections (down through audio) of your DXDIAG so we can take a look. Thanks!

1. Open up your config.ini
2. Look for the following line: EnableGameCoreThreading = 1
3. Change it to: EnableGameCoreThreading = 0

Thanks, and let me know.

Thank you. That seems to have fixed the lag I was experiencing. The contents of my dxdiag report are below. Let me know if I've cut out anything important.

Spoiler :

timtofly · Jun 24, 2012

I_pity_the_fool said:
Thank you. That seems to have fixed the lag I was experiencing. The contents of my dxdiag report are below. Let me know if I've cut out anything important.

Spoiler :

System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 6/24/2012, 23:08:51
Machine name: ROB-DESKTOP
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: p6740uk
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/07/10 09:17:09 Ver: 6.10
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
Page File: 3241MB used, 4947MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 405
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 405
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_10C5&SUBSYS_908E1B0A&REV_A2
Display Memory: 2770 MB
Dedicated Memory: 978 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Monitor Name: Dell E228WFP
Monitor Model: DELL E228WFP
Monitor Id: DELD014
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0013.0142 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.13.142
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/15/2012 11:48:00, 18044224 bytes

Do you ever have trouble with lagging late game?

You are proof that one can use a below spec GPU.

YouMust · Jun 25, 2012

Specialforces said:
I did find if you switch to strategic view that the turn time does shorten a lot but you do loose the animation for sure.

Just installed g&k and I'm forced to do that too. I simply hate doing it,though! The reason I like civ v is the graphics(among other things).

timtofly · Jun 26, 2012

YouMust said:
Just installed g&k and I'm forced to do that too. I simply hate doing it,though! The reason I like civ v is the graphics(among other things).

If everything was wroking great before G&K, have you tried this:

1. Open up your config.ini
2. Look for the following line: EnableGameCoreThreading = 1
3. Change it to: EnableGameCoreThreading = 0

I_pity_the_fool · Jul 2, 2012

timtofly said:
Do you ever have trouble with lagging late game?

You are proof that one can use a below spec GPU.

I don't actually. In fact I've got my graphics settings set up around medium level. I had no idea my graphics card was below spec.

gorillagogo · Sep 1, 2012

Hi. I haven't played Civ5 in months but decided to buy Gods & Kings today. I started a new game and noticed some odd stuff -- after building a city and moving my initial warrior the game would lag for several minutes saying that I had a unit waiting to move. This happened several times so I timed it and the average was two minutes before the game recognized that my only unit had already moved. There was no way to get out of this loop. Additionally, when I tried to set up a build queue the screen didn't show items that I'd added. When I left the city screen and went back in, all of the items that I'd added appeared.

At this point I figured that since I hadn't played Civ5 for a long time my local files were probably out of date, so the new Gods & Kings update must have been installed over top of a version that wasn't able to interact with it correctly. I exited the game and went into Steam and updated my local cache. It said there was one file that couldn't be validated so it would reinstall. Aha. So I restarted the game and it reinstalled the file and opened normally. I started a new game and had the same problems. This time I rebooted the computer. Same problems. I went back into Steam and checked the local cache and got the same message that one file couldn't be validated. It appeared to download the file, so I restarted the game. Same problem.

Then I tried rebooting and checking the cache in different sequences. Each time I got the same message that one file failed to validate and would be reacquired. After exhausting all of these options, I went into Steam and deleted all local content. That meant I had to re download the entire game. After waiting an hour or so for that to finish (side note: why did I put the gaming computer in the furthest possible room from the wireless router? aargh.) I started a brand new game and had the exact same problems. I just checked the local cache again and received the same damn message that one local file couldn't be validated.

I'm at wit's end. What could possibly be going wrong that a completely fresh install couldn't fix? Has anyone else had the same problem?

The_J · Sep 1, 2012

I guess that might be the same problem like here, so please try this.

(note: In case it turns out to be the same, I will later merge the threads)

gorillagogo · Sep 1, 2012

That fixed it.

Thanks. I spent hours uninstalling and reinstalling files, as well as searching the forums on Steam and here. Then I post a question and five minutes later everything works again.

The_J · Sep 1, 2012

Moderator Action: -> threads merged.

Well, that was just luck

. There are still quite some problems with Civ5 which could not have been solved here. You just stumbled about a known one.

4sterisk · Sep 12, 2012

1.0.1.705 update killed Civ V for me with its unimaginable lag and loading times. Thanks Firaxis...

P.S. EnableGameCoreThreading = 0 slows the game even more.

wgene · Sep 13, 2012

I am also having problems with lag later on in the game between turns and it can take up to 7 minutes to process. Please see my dxdiag.

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