Video Card Question

Gogf said:
The graphics card you mentioned will be able to run Civ4 to the fullest extent, without any problems?

I hesitate to say that it will run to its "fullest extent", since one could always pile on antialiasing and aniso filtering at high resolutions to slow it down to unacceptable speeds...

I can almost guarantee that it will run civ4 at 1280x1024 at reasonably high settings though. It will acceptably run all games currently released at (nearly indistinguishable from) max settings at that resolution without any AA/AF.

You could always wait to buy... there's always going to be something faster in the future for the same price. ;)

What processor do you have?
 
KaeptnOvi said:
are you sure that Geforce2 supports hardware T&L? I thought that wasn't implemented until Geforce4.
You're thinking of pixel shading. I believe hardware T&L has been featured since the GeForce 256.

Gogf said:
Why the low resolution? Somehow I can't fathom using 800x600 on this 1280x1024 screen
The higher you set the resolution, the more work the video card has to do. The MX440 just cannot cope with the latest games at high resolutions.

Gogf said:
If I were to buy a new video card, what is recommended, and what would the price be?
I would agree with Zelig's recommendation. The 6600GT is second only to the Radeon X800XL on a price/performance scale, though the X800XL does cost close to $300.

Gogf said:
The graphics card you mentioned will be able to run Civ4 to the fullest extent, without any problems?
You would probably need 2 GF7800 GTX cards in SLI to run the latest games to the fullest extent. ;)
 
The GeFroce 6600 GT is the card I am getting
from what I'v read and asked people here it's a grood card for the money
 

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Zakharov said:
I would agree with Zelig's recommendation. The 6600GT is second only to the Radeon X800XL on a price/performance scale, though the X800XL does cost close to $300.

The GF7800 are surprisingly good price/performance wise too, even though they just came out. I wouldn't be surprised if the 6800 ultras became quite a good deal in the next few months too though.


Gogf: The 6600gt should be a good match for the processor. The video card will still be a rather small bottleneck in a majority of new games rather than the cpu. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, I rarely use Intel systems for gaming anymore)
 
Zelig said:
The GF7800 are surprisingly good price/performance wise too, even though they just came out. I wouldn't be surprised if the 6800 ultras became quite a good deal in the next few months too though.

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you won't be able to buy them at all. They are difficult to manufacture and not many are sold...
mid range cards such as 6800NU/GT will be still selling and good deal
 
Zelig said:
Quite sure. The Geforce4 MX line were basically speeded up Geforce 2 cards. Higher end Geforce3 cards were much better than all of the MX line cards.
That specific GF2 card actually has second generation TnL implemented IIRC.

That being said, you're right, it isn't a fast card, but Civ4 should work on it.

ah, ok. I guess I had those terms mixed up then :)
 
If your buying a graphics card you should try to stay away from radeons. They seem to have problems with some game enghines.
 
zjl56 said:
If your buying a graphics card you should try to stay away from radeons. They seem to have problems with some game enghines.

ATI is recommended for playing Pirates! (aka the Gamebryo Graphics Engine).
Civ IV will be using the same engine, so I really doubt there will be any problems with Civ IV (if that's Gogf's focus :) ).

As for other games, I have not heard any major problems with the cards. If the card is new, it will probably play well.
 
zjl56 said:
If your buying a graphics card you should try to stay away from radeons. They seem to have problems with some game enghines.
That may have been true a few years ago, but ATI have really got their act together recently. Current ATI cards compare very well to their nvidia equivalents and even outperform them in games written in DirectX (eg. Half Life 2).
 
I have NVIDIA GeForce Ti4200 128 MB RAM

Will that work well for Civ4?
 
Zakharov said:
That may have been true a few years ago, but ATI have really got their act together recently. Current ATI cards compare very well to their nvidia equivalents and even outperform them in games written in DirectX (eg. Half Life 2).

Not true since the 7800 GTX came out anymore... NVidia really messed up the Gerforce 5x00 line, I doubt ATI will be able to take as much advantage as they did with the Radeon 9x00 line any time in the near future.

However, what you say is true, there's no reason to avoid Radeon cards because of any problems with games.


cierdan said:
I have NVIDIA GeForce Ti4200 128 MB RAM

Will that work well for Civ4?

It will work nicely, I think, but don't expect it to run the graphics at max settings.
 
Zakharov said:
That may have been true a few years ago, but ATI have really got their act together recently. Current ATI cards compare very well to their nvidia equivalents and even outperform them in games written in DirectX (eg. Half Life 2).
That may be true but I have had some trouble with games like KOTOR and KOTOR 2 which wouldn't run on a $150 radeon card I bought a few months back. So if you want to go radeon I would suggest get something a little more advanced than I got.
 
How good of a card is the Radeon X300SE? As it was the cheapest card I could find but know I'm startin tog et hindsight.....
 
Zelig said:
Not true since the 7800 GTX came out anymore...
Until the R520 is released there is no ATI equivalent of the 7800 GTX, so there is nothing to compare its performance with in that price range.

zjl56 said:
That may be true but I have had some trouble with games like KOTOR and KOTOR 2 which wouldn't run on a $150 radeon card I bought a few months back. So if you want to go radeon I would suggest get something a little more advanced than I got.
That's not really ATI's fault. Those games are classic examples of unfinished and/or poorly tested work. I'm sure that once patches were released then a lot of problems would have been solved.

MarineCorps said:
How good of a card is the Radeon X300SE?
Not great. It's barely a step up from integrated video, though that may be all you want from it.
 
Zakharov said:
Until the R520 is released there is no ATI equivalent of the 7800 GTX, so there is nothing to compare its performance with in that price range.

Exactly, ATI has nothing to compete against the 7800gtx... while top of the line cards aren't important in actual sales, they have a huge influence on what the casual gamer buys.
NVidia isn't about to sit on their hands while ATI finishes the R520 either, they'll most likely have a comparable 32 pipeline card released around the same time as ATI releases the R520.

NVidia has better Linux and 64-bit Windows drivers than ATI as well... I'm hoping that will change though, so I can put my 9800 pro rig to better use. ;)
 
Zakharov said:
Not great. It's barely a step up from integrated video, though that may be all you want from it.

Well thats what I get for buying the cheapest card. :rolleyes:

Anyone want to recommend a good PCI-e card for civ4 and Unreal 2004
 
MarineCorps said:
Anyone want to recommend a good PCI-e card for civ4 and Unreal 2004
It depends on your budget. If money is no object then the GF7800 GTX (or even 2 of them in SLI) is the best available card. However, if like most of us you need to limit your spending, the GF6600 GT offers excellent performance for the price (~ $150).
 
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