Discussion in 'Team CivFanatics' started by 2metraninja, Jun 7, 2013.
I don't see any pictures in the last two posts.
Here is the picture again from CP, hopefully it works this time:
And here is a current picture of the war front from this turn. CivFr has already moved, but we have not.
Also, it seems that CivFr has turned their research back on. Hopefully that means they have finished upgrading units.
Another gift from CP:
As you know, the French try to settle a city in the Nobamba area. We used cutting roads to slow and mess their plans and moved our army close to deny them the are. I was going to do this the last turn too, but then I realized the borders of Chinook will pop for second ring this turn and given a competent play on the French side, our units were going to be in danger. And this was going to slow their settling plan for only 1 turn - with popped second ring, they could position their catapults in their first ring is such a fashion, that they could settle 2 tiles away from Chinook and we could do nothing without leaving ourselves vulnerable for catapulting. So I decided and did not moved in position. I expected they will settle a city this turn, but so far no city settled I see and there are only less than 2 hours on the clock from their part of the timer.
What Ot4e had sent us last turn shows that they started to move knights from the south to north. Maybe they dont know what is all our activity and closing them in the north means? Maybe they suspect we are about to trick and attack them somehow in the north? Well, I made a move and positioned 8 knights and 2 infantry units on the stone resource on the isthmus, from which tile with the help of 9 fast workers we can hit their catapult stack if it is still where it was last turn - NW of Tirecul. There were 2 HAs and 7 cats. If nothing had changed, we will make crushing defeat on them in the south. This will bring back a lot of their North units and will decrease the amount of military they managed to put up the last 5-6 turns, because as of this turn they are military number 2 in the game, outscoring us in this category.
Well, we will know what is to happen in less than 2 hours
I notice their capital has only a warrior defending and it is only 2 tiles from coast... do we have any way of putting Navy in that water?
Here's an illustration of 2metra's plan, capable of being executed this turn.
IMO, we should offer white peace immediately after taking out this stack. Hopefully they're scared enough that Tirecul could fall that they'll give it to us.
Unfortunately not. The only city on the coast of that lake is Chinook. Even if we take that, any ships would need to sail through lots of CivFr culture to arrive at the MissClick shore.
Good coincidence is just after I logged in, CP started to log in and it turned out it is Ot4e. He told me the French moved their catapult stack back, "9" to Tirecul and added 6 knights to it (I suspect those were the 4 knights headed North plus the 2 HAs upgraded in place.)
So, our plan is not possible. Most probably the French just have spy in the no-one's land as we had all the reasons to believe, but we must obliged to try it
Now we are back to defense. Hopefully we will be faster than them in settling the hills, which can give us strong strategic position. I regret that we dont have a second settler ready to settle the Deer spot, because Uciv said nothing and they are most probably just going around the lake clockwise trough their territory and will settle it soon. I am almost OK in whipping a settler from scratch or postponing our GA with one turn to be able to whip a settler next turn. Or launch our GA, but postpone the Pacifism/Caste switch with one turn. This will also give us our Forbidden Palace built in Bulawayo this turn. Otherwise it will be 1 turn slower when we go out of OR.
Just postpone the civics switch.
Update on the CivFr war front.
Notice we could pretty easily take out that stack of workers that just chopped the jungle, if we had the FW's in place to road up to their borders.
We're really lightly defended down here. We need to keep a really close eye on this to make sure they don't try anything sneaky.
So would this be an opportune moment for someone to send them a message saying something like
"Hi, we notice you're growing more confident of our peaceful intentions -- for instance leaving a stack of lightly defended workers where we could potentially attack them. What do you reckon about calling an end to this war so we can each move on to tackling other competitors?"
Yossa, can we have the screenshots in Dropbox please? I am especially interested if French kept their 2 workers with their stack SE of Chinook or they moved them to cut jungle west of Chinook.
If they moved them, I have idea, which can lead to good plan to raze Chinook in 3 turns.
I just dumped a ton of pictures into folders 161-165. Hope you see what you're looking for, would be excellent to raze Chinook
At the end of the last turn our security forces captured and executed a French spy in the ex-zulu territories, near our new city of Vijay. This might time up very nicely with a potential plan to raze Chinook.
Also, I strongly agree with whb's suggestion that now would be a perfect time to propose peace once again. I would much rather have peace with CivFr than raze Chinook and continue with this endless war.
The best time to propose peace and NAP would be the turn we could raze Chinook. Especially if they can see it but not prevent it. A bit of a gunboat diplo again. This time in more traditional manner, though.
Hehe, not bad idea. Most important is to remember they are not going to agree most probably and not let our hope for peaceful solution and common sense influence our decisiveness and our decision making and actions.
French whipped 3 times this turn. I wonder if it is Unis to make the count for OU of they start to arm themselves more serious too?
Looks like everyone is trading pretty freely with our enemies:
Thank goodness for our allies RB, they're the only ones with closed borders. Oh, wait
Very interesting observations, Yossa.
That is what Ot4e had sent me on my gtalk, but he then went offline. Interesting.
Are we interested at all in anything else than white peace?
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