WarNes: Quick and Easy 1936 Nes

[LightFang]

To: Britain and France
From: German Reich

We will openly join your defensive alliance against the Communist.

Article IV

Neither of the two High Contracting Parties shall participate in any grouping of powers whatsoever that is directly or indirectly aimed against the other party.

I protest vigorously.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

From Britain
To Japan

If you try to take any more land in China, you will have to face the formidable British Navy.

To Great Britain
From the Empire of Japan

What business is it of the Royal Navy to suddenly dictate the course of the Far East? In any event, our actions are solely against the unlawful elements of northern Chinese warlords who threaten the stability of the region and the border areas of Manchuko, we have not acted nor will we act against the lawfully recognized government of Nationalist China so we would like the retraction of this unwarranted stance of hostility against our nation from Great Britain.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

To Great Britain
From the Empire of Japan

What business is it of the Royal Navy to suddenly dictate the course of the Far East? In any event, our actions are solely against the unlawful elements of northern Chinese warlords who threaten the stability of the region and the border areas of Manchuko, we have not acted nor will we act against the lawfully recognized government of Nationalist China so we would like the retraction of this unwarranted stance of hostility against our nation from Great Britain.

So you are going to invade China? The Chinese warlords are fighting each other, and assuming Japan does not get involved will only fight each other. The risk of Japan carving out a sphere of influence is too high.

European powers have had a tradition of intervening throughout the world. To take examples from the general area alone, The Opium Wars and the Russia-Japan war.

I do not believe you will deny that Japan is a powerful nation. Another tradition of the Great Powers of Europe, which should be extended to nations such as Japan now they rival them in strength, is to keep each other in check to maintain the balance of power. Great Britain has usually been a major contributor in doing so.

So we have business in the Far East.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

So you are going to invade China? The Chinese warlords are fighting each other, and assuming Japan does not get involved will only fight each other. The risk of Japan carving out a sphere of influence is too high.

European powers have had a tradition of intervening throughout the world. To take examples from the general area alone, The Opium Wars and the Russia-Japan war.

I do not believe you will deny that Japan is a powerful nation. Another tradition of the Great Powers of Europe, which should be extended to nations such as Japan now they rival them in strength, is to keep each other in check to maintain the balance of power. Great Britain has usually been a major contributor in doing so.

So we have business in the Far East.

To Great Britain
From Japan

We are simply going to protect our interest, Great Britain cannot assume nor guarantee that they will simply leave our holdings alone while they bicker against each other. At the same time it would be inhumane to allow these bandits to continue abusing the populace under its control right across from us.

In the latter one European power learned what it meant to intervene in our affairs, do you aim to repeat history now?

Great Britain has no interests nor assets involved in Northern China, at the same time we are hardly threatening to destabilize the balance of power for our target is once again not to topple the recognized government of China but to hunt down unlawful rogues on our border region, which should be of benefit to everyone in bringing a small bit of stability back to this area. We have no interest in bothering legitimate powers, all we desire is the safety of our holdings and true recognition of our status.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

To Great Britain
From Japan

We are simply going to protect our interest, Great Britain cannot assume nor guarantee that they will simply leave our holdings alone while they bicker against each other.

In the latter one European power learned what it meant to intervene in our affairs, do you aim to repeat history now?

Great Britain has no interests nor assets involved in Northern China, at the same time we are hardly threatening to destabilize the balance of power for our target is once again not to topple the recognized government of China but to hunt down unlawful rogues on our border region, which should be of benefit to everyone in bringing a small bit of stability back to this area. We have no interest in bothering legitimate powers, all we desire is the safety of our holdings and true recognition of our status.

You could use the pretence of hunting down rouges to establish control of parts of China. And we can use threats of war ourselves to prevent the warlords attacking your terrortory if you so wish it.

Much as Great Britain dislikes the possibility, I will have to ally even with warlords to prevent the growth of Japanese influence. If necessary.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

You could use the pretence of hunting down rouges to establish control of parts of China. And we can use threats of war ourselves to prevent the warlords attacking your terrortory if you so wish it.

Much as Great Britain dislikes the possibility, I will have to ally even with warlords to prevent the growth of Japanese influence. If necessary.

To Great Britain
From the Empire of Japan

If it will... calm Great Britains fears we shall turn over control of these regions to the legitimate body of Nationalist China once we have brought down these rogues in order to show our good faith. Will Great Britain do that same and lay down their sword? And we highly doubt Britain's capability in making good on such a promise considering the proximity and that your nation has no holdings within the region. We can defend ourselves quite admirably if you would allow us to demonstrate.

Japan has never shown antagonism with Great Britain in the past, and we have no intention of doing so in the near future, so we find it strange that your nation should suddenly choose to provoke us when we have done nothing to you. But if necessary, we will answer it in full force should you continue with your belligerent attitude towards us.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

To Great Britain
From the Empire of Japan

If it will... calm Great Britains fears we shall turn over control of these regions to the legitimate body of Nationalist China once we have brought down these rogues in order to show our good faith. Will Great Britain do that same and lay down their sword? And we highly doubt Britain's capability in making good on such a promise considering the proximity and that your nation has no holdings within the region. We can defend ourselves quite admirably if you would allow us to demonstrate.

Japan has never shown antagonism with Great Britain in the past, and we have no intention of doing so in the near future, so we find it strange that your nation should suddenly choose to provoke us when we have done nothing to you. But if necessary, we will answer it in full force should you continue with your belligerent attitude towards us.

OOC: Judging from OTL, a united China is too much of a threat, as is a Japanese-controlled China. Either possiblity triggers a long term threat I will not accept.

IC:
We are reluctant under the circumstances, but accept the offer.

On the other hand, we do not cease to claim that had it come to war we would have been victorious. One of the warlords or the Nationalist Chinese government would have probably given us a naval base, and we could have negotiated with the French if necessary.

Also, I would like to point out my own air superiority.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

OOC: Judging from OTL, a united China is too much of a threat, as is a Japanese-controlled China. Either possiblity triggers a long term threat I will not accept.

IC:
We are reluctant under the circumstances, but accept the offer.

On the other hand, we do not cease to claim that had it come to war we would have been victorious. One of the warlords or the Nationalist Chinese government would have probably given us a naval base, and we could have negotiated with the French if necessary.

Also, I would like to point out my own air superiority.

To Great Britain
From the Empire of Japan

Very good then, we shall continue with our original operations in that case.

As for your lofty claims of inevitable victory we should hardly be impressed by such boasting. As for the Warlords, we would have denied such an occurrence because that would now posse a threat to our territories in such an event, the same if the request had gone through for Nationalist China, and we hardly see what the French could have done in such a situation.

And please do a recount, we have more planes then Great Britain does

 

[Shadowbound]

The Nanjing-based Government of President Lin-Sen and Premier Wang Jingwei vigorously protests, as there is no need for intervention. Any advance by Japanese forces further into China, placing more regions under its illegal occupation, will be considered a declaration of war against the Second United Front of the Communist and Nationalist Parties. The current warlords in China will be dealt with by the recognized, as admitted by the Japanese, government.

 

[LightFang]

OOC: So your United Front doesn't include Xibei San Ma, Shanxi, Sinkiang, or the Guangxi Clique?

IC:
From: The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
To: Governments of the Second United Front

We officially congratulate the Chinese on their newfound solidarity and the ending of the Nationalist-Communist conflict. May a peace ring throughout China.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

The Nanjing-based Government of President Lin-Sen and Premier Wang Jingwei vigorously protests, as there is no need for intervention. Any advance by Japanese forces further into China, placing more regions under its illegal occupation, will be considered a declaration of war against the Second United Front of the Communist and Nationalist Parties. The current warlords in China will be dealt with by the recognized, as admitted by the Japanese, government.

To Nationalist China
From The Empire of Japan

We give the Nationalist government one turn to clear out this infestation or we will do it for them, and we will not tolerate the area coming under the control of the communist forces as they have proven to be a destabilizing influence in the past and would threaten the same for our holdings as well.

 

[Shadowbound]

OOC: It should be noted that the leaders of Shaanxi and Guangxi Cliques had government posts in the Nationalist Party, Sinkiang was a Soviet puppet, and the Ma Clique collaborated extensively with the Nationalists. And that Wang Jingwei was the head of the Guomindang's more civilian left-wing, as opposed to Chiang Kai-shek military-led right.

EDIT:

To Dai-Nihon
From the Republic of China

The Japanese are condemned internationally for their illegal occupation of Manchuria. We will not permit them to place further provinces under their foreign rule.

 

[LightFang]

OOC: I'd note that Yen Hsi-shan, who ruled over Shanxi, still had a neutrality policy going and even refused Chiang Kai-shek's offer for aid when the Communists continued the Civil War after the Japanese were defeated; even though he was a member of the Beiyang Army, he still avoided politics. Yeah, he was in the government; he didn't really act like it. I'd argue similarly for Guangxi too; Li Zongren probably would have declared war on Nationalist China even with the defeat in the Central Plains War had there not been the Manchurian Incident.

I will give to you that Sinkiang was a Soviet puppet and that the Ma Clique collaborated with the Nationalists however.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

OOC: It should be noted that the leaders of Shaanxi and Guangxi Cliques had government posts in the Nationalist Party, Sinkiang was a Soviet puppet, and the Ma Clique collaborated extensively with the Nationalists. And that Wang Jingwei was the head of the Guomindang's more civilian left-wing, as opposed to Chiang Kai-shek military-led right.

EDIT:

To Dai-Nihon
From the Republic of China

The Japanese are condemned internationally for their illegal occupation of Manchuria. We will not permit them to place further provinces under their foreign rule.

To The Republic of China
From the Empire of Japan

Manchuko is its own nation, and we would not have acted on that score had the government of China managed to prevent the actions of its people against us, as the same can be said with the situation with the Northern warlords. As we said before, if we are forced to intervene we will turn control of the provinces over to you, but intervene we shall if the Nationalist government proves insufficient in dealing with this threat.

 

[dldnjstjr]

To: USSR
From: German Reich

To: Britain and France
From: German Reich

We will openly join your defensive alliance against the Communist.

Article IV

Neither of the two High Contracting Parties shall participate in any grouping of powers whatsoever that is directly or indirectly aimed against the other party.

I protest vigorously.

Rest easy, my friend, it was a defensive alliance against an ideology, not against the USSR. And it is specifically said that it was a defensive alliance, not an pre-emptive defensive one, so that we won't take any actions unless Germany herself is attacked. Therefore, your vigorous protest is nonsensical.


To: Great Britain
From: German Reich

Forget it then.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

OOC: Good, a pretext.

From Great Britain
To Japan
CC Chinese States

The warlord situation is China's problem. If the legitimate Chinese government does not want you dealing with it, then your motives become very suspicious. If China goes to war with you, so will we.

From Britain
To Soviet Union

We do not claim you are trying to do so, but if you are trying to gain influence in China or extend your terrortories there, back off or it's war.

 

[Shadowbound]

OOC: Good, a pretext.

From Great Britain
To Japan
CC Chinese States

The warlord situation is China's problem. If the legitimate Chinese government does not want you dealing with it, then your motives become very suspicious. If China goes to war with you, so will we.

From Britain
To Soviet Union

We do not claim you are trying to do so, but if you are trying to gain influence in China or extend your terrortories there, back off or it's war.

To Britain
From the Republic of China

President Lin Sen thanks Britain for its support, but cautions that the Soviet Union has so far not committed the same grave crimes against the Chinese nation and people that the Japanese have, and relations between Moscow and Nanjing remain warm.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

To Britain
From the Republic of China

President Lin Sen thanks Britain for its support, but cautions that the Soviet Union has so far not committed the same grave crimes against the Chinese nation and people that the Japanese have, and relations between Moscow and Nanjing remain warm.

From Britain
To Republic of China

That much is acknowledged.

 

[KrimzonStriker]

From Great Britain
To Japan
CC Chinese States

The warlord situation is China's problem. If the legitimate Chinese government does not want you dealing with it, then your motives become very suspicious. If China goes to war with you, so will we.

To Great Britain
From the Empire of Japan

We have just as much at stake on the Asian mainland should the Chinese government not prove able to deal with these rouge elements, and we shall act accordingly in regards should that scenario happen. We will not submit to you or any other outside pressure on the manner, and if that prove incapable for you to swallow then we shall resort to action instead of words to convince you of otherwise.

 

[Neverwonagame3]

From Great Britain
To China

I will let you handle negotiations on this matter with the Japanese. I give you my full guarentee that you will have the support of the British navy and airforce should you go to war.