What are bad examples of having certain civics running?

[kensington888]

I am asking what would be the worst axample or time to change or use a certain civic?for example if i changed a few civics and my slider went down way below what is was what reasons could make this happen?

 

[King Pluto]

The falling slider may be caused by switching from low-maintenance civics to high-maintenance civics. In particular, if you're relying on State Property to reduce distance costs of a huge empire and your switch to Environmentalism, you're going to be paying a lot more.

 

[coanda]

There are literally dozens of ways you can raise upkeep costs by changing civics. If you go from running Paganism to running Pacifism and see a big jump in your upkeep, it's because you've got a lot of military units you're suddenly paying extra for. Similarly, switching out of State Property might lead to an increase in your upkeep because you're suddenly paying distance upkeep costs again. Or switching out of Bureaucracy could hurt your research rate because you aren't getting +50% commerce in your capital any more. And so forth, and so on. The only real advice I can give is to read the in-game descriptions of the civics, because they are absolutely clear about what they do. Also, it's not always a bad thing if your slider goes down when you switch civics. Someone swapping into Slavery from Tribalism will usually see their upkeep rise a little, but the benefits of slavery far outweigh the small extra costs (although it does mean sometimes you put off the swap a few turns until you are ready to actually make use of slavery).

 

[Ataxerxes]

There are lots of ways to kill yourself with the wrong civics. If you've expanded hard and have a very slow economy don't switch to high-cost civics. Manipulating Civics can be very confusing but it really helps.

Two traits will influence your Civics choice. Organized makes the high-cost civics less painful and Spiritual lets you switch in and out of civics.

The Environmentalism from State Property is an extreme late-game example of hurting your research with a civics switch. Some of the early-game switches, while hurting less in total gold lost, will dig your own grave. Going into Organized Religion and Vassalage with a 20% slider before the switch would probably be suicidal. This is why Organized is one of my favorite warmonger traits.

 

[AutomatedTeller]

Free Market to environmentalism can hurt a lot of you are running corporations - your costs will go nuts.

 

[Scoottr]

I've always wished that you could click on possible civic combinations and it would show you the total impact of the change, not just how much more in the base cost would change.

Hate making a change and then realizing it was bad and then be stuck with it for a bunch of turns

 

[j_mie6]

that's why you get the cristo redentor I love that for when I need to make quick civic swaps to save myself from impending doom

 

[Archon_Wing]

I didn't realize pacifism needed a state religion and the city /w the state religion to get that boost until lately. Derp.

Also, any of the UN BS votes.