What do Brits think of Irish rebel songs?

[storealex]

Ok so me and the boys were singing "Black velvet band" on the street yesterday, and some Brits came up and told us that if we had been in England, we would have our arses kicked. The fact that it's not even a rebel song didn't matter to them. I told them to go to hell...

Anyway, it made me curious as to whether this sentiment is normal in England. So my questions are:

- What do Brits think of the Irish?
- Irish songs?
- Rebel songs?
- Old IRA?
- Provisional IRA?

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

People in England tend to not care about the political side of things - that's a matter for the people living there. Northern Irish politics is alien to English people - we don't care about religion. But the IRA in its various guises is hated for obvious reasons. I can't really comment on the songs. If they only comment on Irish nationalism and rebellion then I don't think they'd raise many eyebrows. If they celebrate the bombing of British cities then they'd probably be seen as a bit rude.

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

I like them. My great grandfather was kicked out of Ireland for fighting the British.

 

[CurtSibling]

Many lower class chumps in Scotland are brainwashed with the two different flavours of christianity, and fight over it. Forced to
do so by idiot forebears, they are unaware of the history or even the context, naturally it stems back to soccer and hooliganism.

In my opinion, Ireland is a grotty little place, and they can sing what they like.

Britain could nuke the guinness-guzzling island into glass if we wanted to.

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[GinandTonic]

Britain could nuke the guinness-guzzling island into glass if we wanted to.

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Nah they've moved Guinness production from the UK back to Ireland just to avoid such action. Hiding behind a beer-shield, dam em!

People dont are about Irish politics, but if you were to celibrate terrorists killing civilians you would get about the same reaction you would get in New York or Tel Aviv.

If you just walked into a pub and sang a song about the Brits eating babies or whatever the reaction would depend on the pub, from thinking you are just being rude to breaking a bottle over your face. Probably about the same as if you did it in any country really.

 

[Taliesin]

The song "The Men Behind the Wire" is treasonous, as far as I know-- its author was interned simply for writing it. Very catchy though.

 

[Cullyn]

In my opinion, Ireland is a grotty little place, and they can sing what they like.

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IMHO your opinion proves you are a Muppet.

To those who have a clue. There are loads of different rebel songs, about many different things. About the only ones that might get you into real trouble is "A Nation Once Again" and the like. Most other songs are not so bloody bad and tend to tell a story ("Fields of Athenry") as for Black Velvet Band, never heard that as getting you into trouble, generally if it sung well it will make everyone shut up to listen. And that’s about transportation.

As for people who sing them. They are part of the culture here, in that they form a huge part of a type of trad music. Some are pure drivel to be honest but some are really good.

But at the end of the day, music like rebel songs are part of History. And some become more than that.

Some links –

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amhrán_na_bhFiann

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ireland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolfe_Tones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Nation_Once_Again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fields_of_Athenry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Velvet_Band

 

[CurtSibling]

I never mentioned that my homeland, Scotland is just as grotty.

But at least we don't bomb people.

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[PrinceOfLeigh]

I never mentioned that my homeland, Scotland is just as grotty.

But at least we don't bomb people.

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That's because your rebellion was crushed before it obtained the technology

 

[CurtSibling]

That's because your rebellion was crushed before it obtained the technology

Lucky for you bunch of Southern softies.

And it didn't stop you English from having to bribe us into shoring up your shabby little kingdom.

 

[EdwardTking]

Ok so me and the boys were singing "Black velvet band" on the street yesterday, and some Brits came up and told us that if we had been in England, we would have our arses kicked. The fact that it's not even a rebel song didn't matter to them. I told them to go to hell...

Anyway, it made me curious as to whether this sentiment is normal in England.

No it is not.

So my questions are:

- What do Brits think of the Irish?

Mostly alright, rather embarassed about that famine, a classic
free market cockup. It was a shame the divorce was so messy.

At least they speak English unlike the frogs and the spics.

- Irish songs?

We like them. Better than a lot of modern trash.

- Rebel songs?

We didn't realise that was a rebel song.

And BTW Bobby Sands chose to kill himself anyway.
Nohing to do do with us, we do not care anyway.

- Old IRA?

Unfriendly, uncivilised, unwilling to negotiate solutions to
differences like others did, they supported that Hitler too.

- Provisional IRA?

Nasty Terrorists. Achieved nothing but murder and mutilation.
Only goodun a deadun. Cold war now. Best let them age and die out.

 

[Abaddon]

Frankly i couldnt care less, id be more insulted if they sung songs about my left nut.

The whole ireland thing seems silly to me.. let ship the "irishbrits" back over here and then ireland becomes one again.. sounds godo to me

 

[nonconformist]

I tend to sing and play my fair bit of Irish rebel songs, and I've not cometo any trouble.

In fact, I'd be hard pressed to find one of the people I know (myself included) who haven't pledged allegiance to the IRA while under the influence.

EDIT: The best Irish Rebel Song being, of course, Young Ned of the Hill.

 

[storealex]

Unfriendly, uncivilised, unwilling to negotiate solutions to
differences like others did, they supported that Hitler too.

The old IRA were what later became the genuine Irish army. The ones fighting for independence. When Hitler came to power, it was already the armed forces of Ireland.

 

[Hitro]

Many lower class chumps in Scotland are brainwashed with the two different flavours of christianity, and fight over it. Forced to
do so by idiot forebears, they are unaware of the history or even the context, naturally it stems back to soccer and hooliganism.

Football.

I never mentioned that my homeland, Scotland is just as grotty.

But at least we don't bomb people.

My grandmother might disagree.

 

[col]

Curt's grandmother was probably a pilot.

 

[Sidhe]

Ok so me and the boys were singing "Black velvet band" on the street yesterday, and some Brits came up and told us that if we had been in England, we would have our arses kicked. The fact that it's not even a rebel song didn't matter to them. I told them to go to hell...

Anyway, it made me curious as to whether this sentiment is normal in England. So my questions are:

- What do Brits think of the Irish?
- Irish songs?
- Rebel songs?
- Old IRA?
- Provisional IRA?

Irish songs are great, whiskey in the jar, Irish rover, fairy tale of New York. Danny boy, as you can tell I frequented a few "Irish" pubs so my repertoire is lacking.

Rebel songs, everyones entitled to an opinion

Old IRA(thinly veiled nutcases in the same vein as any violent terrorist group)

Provisional IRA. Only if their provisional

 

[Rossiya]

Young English people really don't give a damn about the traditional British hate for the Irish.

 

[col]

Its so last century

 

[Hitro]

Curt's grandmother was probably a pilot.

Reconnaissance, right? They've all just been reconnaissance. Or heroes.