What do you think of copy-protection in Audio-CD's ?
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Wolfe Tone
Which Way Did He Go?
Let's just say I've been known to 'bend' copyright laws on occasions, so I am against any sort of copy protection. I should be allowed to take a couple audio cd that I bought and take the best tracks from each and burn them to my own cd. I also think I should be allowed to copy software I bought leagally. It's usefully to have a back copy in case something happens to the original.
I use KaZaA (lite of course) to get music, I'm not ashamed of that. I'm not going to fork out £16 for an album that only has 1 or 2 tracks I want. I have no morale issues with downloading music. In fact p2p sharing programs can come in handy to find obscure artists. I wouldn't have been able to get music from one of my favourite bands without it. I looked all around my area for 2 cds (from certain HUGE Rockstars, I'm sure Floppa knows who I'm talking ) that I want so I downloaded them. I probably could import them but I don't see why I should have to. Although if they decide to play here then I will definatly buy their Albums.
I use KaZaA (lite of course) to get music, I'm not ashamed of that. I'm not going to fork out £16 for an album that only has 1 or 2 tracks I want. I have no morale issues with downloading music. In fact p2p sharing programs can come in handy to find obscure artists. I wouldn't have been able to get music from one of my favourite bands without it. I looked all around my area for 2 cds (from certain HUGE Rockstars, I'm sure Floppa knows who I'm talking ) that I want so I downloaded them. I probably could import them but I don't see why I should have to. Although if they decide to play here then I will definatly buy their Albums.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Same here. I rarely download more than a few songs on an album; if I want all of it, I buy the CD. Plus, I never have the time to burn them anyway.I think CD Burners are finally reviving the mix tape!
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Re: fewer titles and more profit per title, that's the price of piracy. Copyright/patent based industries tend to work like roulette The bigger the number of winning chips, the more #'s they can afford to bet on next time (and so, the greater the diversity of publication, research, production, etc.).
Greater risk (from things like piracy) forces them to bet more resources on surer things, like Viagra or Brittany Spears.
R.III
Greater risk (from things like piracy) forces them to bet more resources on surer things, like Viagra or Brittany Spears.
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I used to watch a lot of music channels on tv. Mostly because there was a German tv channel, VIVA ZWEI, that only played alternative music. And by alternative I don't mean someone like Aerosmith or Manowar, but live concerts of Radiohead or The Eels, videos that were not just showing a band play but Bjork and Nine Inch Nails.
A year ago the channel was replaced by VIVA Plus, because they realised, that they could have more audience with another mainstream channel instead of one that plays music you don't hear every hour on the radio.
I do not think, that this was a reaction to Napster. Diversity dies because mainstream just sells better. No need to give money to some risky artist if you can sell with some more merchandising a couple of thousand more Pink albums.
A year ago the channel was replaced by VIVA Plus, because they realised, that they could have more audience with another mainstream channel instead of one that plays music you don't hear every hour on the radio.
I do not think, that this was a reaction to Napster. Diversity dies because mainstream just sells better. No need to give money to some risky artist if you can sell with some more merchandising a couple of thousand more Pink albums.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Not really...it's the goal of any business to maximize their margins, not just the result of "piracy".
I see the copy protections as more of control issue. The RIAA has had and wants to continue to have the power to decide who you listen to and on what device you listen to it on.
The purpose of copyrights as defined in the constitution was to promote creativity and make arts more available to the public by giving the artist a limited monopoly on his work. Originally this monopoly was 14 years, and could be renewed for one additional fourteen year period. After the term was over the work would enter the public domain.
Today, with various extensions, this monopoly now is 95 years. Many works that should now be available to all and preserved for eternity have been lost forever because they were never reprinted and the originals are gone. This is especially true of early movies.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
I see somebody's been copying from Lessig's blog again...
(although I personally wouldn't be broken up if the length of copyrights were reduced, since I see it as a tangential issue)
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Piracy will never be wiped out unless record companies lower their prices to a level where it would not be worth the while to rip the CD...
There are a lot of people out there who like good music but can't afford it. One reason is the pirating itself, which inflates the prices of CDs.
CD-copy is pretty lame and will only annoy, not stop a perspective ripper. One way to go about it is to educate people.
The latest attempt by the record companies is to sabotaje the main sites distributing copy-righted musis (they recently received legal cleareance).
There are a lot of people out there who like good music but can't afford it. One reason is the pirating itself, which inflates the prices of CDs.
CD-copy is pretty lame and will only annoy, not stop a perspective ripper. One way to go about it is to educate people.
The latest attempt by the record companies is to sabotaje the main sites distributing copy-righted musis (they recently received legal cleareance).
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
You can copy paintings with expired copyrights. But not those without expired copyrights.
R.III
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
E.g. Free.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Sorry, I was being unfair, since your post was almost a word-for-word repeat of Lessig's stump speech on the issue. I'll compensate by offering you this link:
Lessig Blog
R.III
Furry Spatula
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well i don't know if you guys have heard of the new copy protection that is being developed. It is a CD that will melt if put in a computer CD-ROM drive. Thus ruining the CD and the drive. I remember hearing about it on the radio show, "THe ongoing history of music, with allan Cross". There apparently will be warnings on the cd with that. My view on this is if they want to do it, they should make it extremly visible(IE the cd cover is plain white with Big Bold Black text only)
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
That is why God invented the modchip, my friend.
Plexus
Architeuthidae puericomedentis
70 years past the artist's death, I belive.
Furry Spatula
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its 50 years untill it becomes public domain not 70. Atleast in the states it is, and I'm pretty sure Canada too.
