Izipo
Hardcore casual gamer
What I want is enough time to be able to play it... 
Oblivion and Fallout III are still sitting on my desk, still wrapped.
Oblivion and Fallout III are still sitting on my desk, still wrapped.
What do -you- want in TES5?
- Thread starter The Almighty dF
- Start date
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
Fallout one and twos speech system consisted of, if your speech skill was hi enough, new speech options appeared, and they were always "pass" int he sense that you could click them just like any other speech option.
However, this was confusing to you, the player, because there wasn't any kind of indicator that acknowledged that that dialogue option was available to you for having a hi speech skill, often making the speech skill feel unused. In Fallout 3 they at least had the percentage next to the speech option letting you know that it was available to attempt, and your speech skill only determined you chance at success.
The Almighty dF
Pharaoh
Not possible.
Bethesda has said they never plan to do this (in the forseeable future) due to how big TES games are. Imagine having a gigantic gameworld full of destructible terrain.
Can you hear your CPU crying?
I've got a 3.1GHz CPU and it's crying just at the thought.
yeah, my computer wouldn't be able to run it in all probability but it would be cool if they could do it anyway. maybe just have it as an option for people who own computers which could kill a crocodile.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
This.
Every other point pretty much too. I want the world to feel ALIVE! and REAL not just a bunch of preset NPCs who don't feel alive. I want ot see birds, the occaisional insect, rabbits, non-giant rats, cats, dogs, deer (at elast those were in Oblivion), fish,squirrals, owls, bees pollinating flowers, etc etc etc. If someone could combine the plant groth from the Dunia engine (really it's only ability that I know of) with the CryEngine 2 (or 3
) and what the TES series needs from an engine (Beth's engines and games are buggy sadly) it'd be sweet.I want the monsters, creatures and people I face to act realistiacly, with more stronger creatures appearing when I get to higher levels yes, but still have regular forest critters running around.
I want the combat system to be liek Mount&blades yes, but the one thing I love in 3rd person (especialyl sued in consoel games) is seeing the weapon actually tear off what it hits or go into the person (like the bayonet in Call of Duty: world at War for an FPS example). No mroe of this slashing at them with no or little visible damage while their health bar slowly goes down.
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
I always felt like Mount and Blades combat system was to unresponsive, it seemed like there was always a clutzy delay on sword swings and stuff.
GoodGame
Red, White, & Blue, baby!
- Joined
- Dec 17, 2004
- Messages
- 13,725
Every item has different values, so it may well be that some items are like that. Most of the weapons definitely aren't oriented towards fencing, too.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I think the delay is simply the fact that you have to raise the sword up and then strike rather than always carry it as if you are half-wal through hitting people. I've never had a problem.
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
Meh I dont know, if it was more responsive I might jump on it, but I always thought it was a better idea then actually fun.
On that vein, I'd like to see more towns or more small villages and outposts. TES4 seems to have a lot of small villages that are inn, 2 houses, and a farm.
Most definately! That would really expand gameplay.
The wabbajocky thing is sort of like a spear/pike. I'm sure there's TES4 mods that include spears/pikes. I'm not sure how the blunt weapons splitting thing worked.
I guess that's one of the great RPG gameplay debates. Non-leveled enemies, then some become too easy, almost forcing you to move on. Then again, leveled enemies wouldn't seem that realistic (gain 1 level too many, and those enemies wind up killing off everyone in open villages!
) Maybe when there's more regions (a full game like TES1:Arena) they could. But, then you'd have one one region with powerful dragons, and villagers wearing glass armor or their equivalent.I would agree on the more armor thing, and special types of armor for certain classes or factions.
I think instead, have the surroundings determine the type of weapon that's the best. In the field, a sword or bow & arrows might be best. Indoors, a dagger might be better than a 7 foot claymore sword. Also, make a type of weapon more effect with a character class (i.e., assassins will always use daggers better. Orcs are better at weilding clubs.)
Even terrain: Sword
Hills/Mountains: Bow & Arrow
Indoors (tight corridors/low ceilings): dagger, shortsword, club
Against a defensive target: Hammer
TES1 was like that. I'd like that, too in later versions.
In this economy? Now, that being said, there is voice synthesizing software, but I don't think that's been perfected yet. Once it is, you'll probably have varied voices.
I liked the tutorial for new games - at least make it optional.
all good suggestions. i would add that i would like an improved combat system including:
-horseback combat
-special attacks (i.e. not just slash-slash-slash)
-using shield offensively
-decapitation
-maybe some kind of critical hit system? it would have to be well done though.
oh and also, please stop the character from being able to get higher than say 50% reflect damage/resist magic etc. it was way too overpowered. oh and make invisibility really expensive to use.
Isn't the master skill level for weapons like a critical hit? They're a little tricky to do sometimes, but it's a more powerful attack.
I don't think marksman is useless. My first game, I had a very skilled khajit archer once that picked off every enemy in the oblivion gates without even being noticed.
I'd agree with that. Most have bandits, mages, ghosts, or vampires, and are fairly optional anyway.
I think random placement would make modding the game difficult.
What's the annoying part about the dialouge? The fact that most will say the same thing over and over again? (i.e., "Have you heard about the other provinces?", "Nothing I'd care to talk about...", etc.) I think until they develop a very good AI-chip, that'll be tough to do.
Kind of like Sims or something? (assuming that the AI actively does things like decide to look for a job if they lost their job).
What I'd like to see is more of an economy (not supply/demand and inflation - that would wreck havoc if you had a 5 trillion septim stimulus package), and an AI with "survival-instincts". That way, you don't see things like the AI eating food out of thin air, or just stand there when it sees an arrow whiz past.
Economy: (and diplomacy)
Instead of having swords and armor spawn out of mid-air in shops, shop keepers would need to hire NPCs that go out an mine the ore (maybe 10 workers can mine enough ore to produce 3 long swords per week). They would, of course, also have to hire gaurds to protect them. Then there's the blacksmith that has to create the swords (also takes time). Likewise, farmers that farm crops (in season! if you pick a carrot when it's only been growing for a week, it's not gonna heal you as well as a ripe carrot) harvest certain times per year. Different lattitudes would have 1 to 4 farming seasons, too. You'd see caravens transporting crops to the big cities, and tax carts (with gaurds) going from the count's castles and collecting taxes (gold whatever the people have) and returning to the castle. The AIs would sort out the goods, and send a portion to the capital. If you were a thief character, you could even fine the castle's "treasury room" where they keep the taxes. Stealing their money could affect the economy though... (no money? Then a gaurd might wind up jobless and wander the banks of the river as a bandit, or return to his home village). You'd even see a dialouge about it.
It would be nice to set up shop along a barren, but well travelled, roadside and have people buy things from you. Eventually, you could turn that into a town. Who knows, maybe one day, you could build a palace, train troops, and conquer the entire continent.
"Survival AI":
On a normal day, the AI schedule would be "Eat", "Work", "Eat Lunch", "Work", Go home or do something fun", "Eat", "Sleep". If they find they're getting low on food, go to the market and buy food. If no food exists (they'll have a recent memory if food is low, look elsewhere), then go to the next town. If they're desperate, they might try to steal food, or create a farm. The AI shouldn't try to pick a fight with a gaurd, either... and gaurds shouldn't fight each other over venison (Must be a prized delicacy in Tamriel).
I remember an old BBS "online" game like that (Usurper?). It had 50-some-odd skills like -
karate - knife hand strick
karate - side kick
sword - slash
sword - thrust
with each having a skill level like "minimal, novice, etc." (not sure of the exact level names - all I remember is that they were color coded). The more you used them, the higher they'd go when leveling up. I think TES4 kind of tries to do this. Whenever you level up, the thing you used the most will have closer to 5 points.
Might be good for sculpting out an area for a town or building, but the game would get slow after awhile with all of those added polygons laying around.
Some other things...
- Less annoying Oblivion Gates or the equivalent. There were maybe 3 types of them, and it gets old fast.
- A game where more than 5% actually has to do with the storyline. The main story in TES4 was quite short, and kind of anti-climatic.
- Do a little more than the old cliched "fetch-quests".
- More Guilds!
- A "good/evil" system like in Might & Magic 7. So, if you're in the Fighter's Guild, and Mage's Guild, there will be consequences (harder to join the opposite faction, or you are removed once word spreads) for joining the Dark Brotherhood or Necromencer's Guild. Each guild will have it's own counterpart. Like in M&M7, you could have some "final guild" (once you're a member of all guilds - maybe grandmaster) that you can only join if you're "100% good" or "100% evil" (haven't switched guilds or done backstabbing of guild members, etc.).
- Remove the "jedi mind powers" of NPCs, or, the "spread the word" system. If you commit a crime in Anvil, it should take quite a while before word spreads to Cheydinhal on the other side of the country. Rumors could spread, too. Let's say you're a famous Fighter's Guild member. Then, you join the Dark Brotherhood, and someone sees you perform some act. They could start spreading the word. Those that read the "Black Horse Courier" would hear about it quicker.
I guess that's one of the great RPG gameplay debates. Non-leveled enemies, then some become too easy, almost forcing you to move on. Then again, leveled enemies wouldn't seem that realistic (gain 1 level too many, and those enemies wind up killing off everyone in open villages!
yeah its a tough one. but on oblivion the leveled monsters system made leveling up a disadvantage in many cases, which it clearly shouldn't be
tbh, i never maxed out my weapons stats... i did for most of the magic, sneak, lockpicking etc., but never for blade/blunt. i just never saw the need, and it was harder to do than the others
thing is, oblivion had the economy of a world of a million people for a world of actually only around maybe 1000 tops. i mean, take imperial city: its got a massive arena, and a large shopping centre but the bottom line is that it only contains a handful of actual houses. in order to generate a realistic economy, you would need far larger populations. but then of course you run into the problems of computer power....
yeah i agree. i don't think procedurally generated gates would be too difficult. just a little variation would make them less monotonous.
i liked the amount of side-quests in relations to the actual quest - 5% was a good amount. however, i do agree that the main quest was far too short... so my advice would be to just make everything bigger, longer and more in depth!
yeah, how long have we all been doing them for? i don't mind a couple, but it really gets old. i also want quests which are difficult to work out what to do.
yes, that would be good. however, i wouldn't be a fan of the kind of system that forces you to play through the game twice in order to access all its features.
agreed. i have had some bad experiences with these. i once slayed a few guards in the imperial city, but i managed to make my escape. i jumped on my horse (it was shadowmere, so i was the fastest thing on the map), rode all the way to anvil, and guess what? the guards tried to arrest me immediately! what the hell....
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
By annoying dialogue system I mean get rid of that, game feezes, eyes locked standing board stiff while conversing and looking you dead on, its just weird and immersion breaking and makes dialogue feel like a chore.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I hate having to choose a class and that class only being able to use certain weapons. Unless I am playing a D&D game, TES is NOT D&D. If I want to play an assassin with a claymore I will.
The dialogue was repetitive, and the voice acting was annoying and bland, orcs sounded exactly the smae as everyone else, every race would either have it's own accent and way of speaking. Especially the beast races.
The dialogue was repetitive, and the voice acting was annoying and bland, orcs sounded exactly the smae as everyone else, every race would either have it's own accent and way of speaking. Especially the beast races.
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
I think there should be more weopon specific skills, and choosing a class gives you a boost to that skil gain or something, but not outrite weopon specialization.
agreed. i think basically what i want in tes5 would be more freedom in all aspects.
JtheJackal
Emperor
- Joined
- Jul 25, 2002
- Messages
- 1,521
Aren't you able to use any weapon in Elder Scrolls if you have the skills already?
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Or even if you don't, and choosing a class already gives you a boost to certain skills, you can also create your own class (which I always do if I can).
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
What I mean was that if you choose "assasin" lets say, you get a 10% damage bonus with all knives and such and such, but not outrite specialization.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
You already get a bonus in that weapon type (which in Oblivion would be Blades, in Morrowind I think it was short-swords).
Similar threads
