Despite having zero artistic skill after seeing some of the icons created here and the analysis done in this thread I'm tempted to get photoshop. I'd love to see how a Canada icon would look like in Civ style and I know they are unlikely even if there is more DLC.
What is that violet-white civ on the mini map down there?
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Still have the PSD file saved, so you're in luck. How about this?
It is a little too much like Indonesia.
How about using the colour pink (there are not that many pink civs)? Perhaps the inverse of Spain?
Percee's worried because a while ago he swore to eat everyone's hats if Venice were in BNW
I'm still waiting on his postal information, I want mine to arrive just before the announcement.
Venetian is not a dialect, it's actually it's own language. Despite some referring to it as a dialect, it is not a derivative or even a relative of Italian (it being even in a different branch of languages).
I have done this over and over again, and below it is done again for you. You know my tools? Microsoft Paint, Excel and a small macro I wrote to colour cells by RGB value.
Too bad the Iroquois' colours are not a match for those used in the screenshot, but the ones off Venice's flag are:
Iroquois:
Venice:
Venetian is not a dialect, it's actually it's own language. Despite some referring to it as a dialect, it is not a derivative or even a relative of Italian (it being even in a different branch of languages).
Too bad the Iroquois' colours are not a match for those used in the screenshot, but the ones off Venice's flag are:
Iroquois:
Venice:
The purple in that flag is so insignificant it would be like looking at the yellow in this flag
and making a case for a civ with yellow and black as their colors, regardless of how close the RGB waves are.
It's a hollow argument built on circumstantial evidence.
So, when will you tell us where to send our hats?
The purple in that flag is so insignificant it would be like looking at the yellow in this flag
and making a case for a civ with yellow and black as their colors, regardless of how close the RGB waves are.
It's a hollow argument built on circumstantial evidence.
You realise that by definition, if the Police walk into a house, see a man covered in blood spatter, with a bat in his hand and a person with their head beaten in on the ground, it is still only circumstantial evidence that they have that he murdered the person on the ground right?
Unless you can offer another explanation of how those exact colours ended up in the game, then that's the only explanation we have. Adding to that, Riga has almost certainly replaced Venice based on everything we know about city states, so it's not as though we weren't already expecting Venice. The odds of them picking that particular colour combination by chance alone having decided to make a new civ purple and cream are of the order of 1 in 4520 when being extremely generous about what constitutes those colours, and using the actual compression error is more like 1 in 419,166,106.
I know people like to dismiss evidence based on their own personal desires a lot of the time, but in this case there really is no need getting yourselves worked up, if you spend the next few weeks speculating about other options, all that's going to happen is that you're going to be worked up when all that speculation counts for nothing and what you then decided you wanted isn't in. I don't like Venice being a Civ, I think it's a terrible choice, but the facts say what they say and at some point you just have to accept it and move on. We still have one more Civ to speculate about, and one we have pretty much no solid clues on, surely that's the better one to speculate about.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Menzies, would you mind comparing the colors on the "unknown" purple civ to various variations of the Iroqouois flag (like the ones you can find via google search)? It'd probably make things more convincing for Venice's case if you can compare to a variety of variations in the Iroqouois flag.
He won't be objective.
How can I fail to be objective with something that would be preferable? I don't want Venice to be in, if you can offer me evidence that would show they are not in I'd be quite happy right now. It was being objective that got me to this whole point about "Venice is in" instead of sitting by ignoring everything I didn't like.
How much of this hinges on the alphabetical nature of the achievements?
Because I saw (on a different board) someone point out the way The Celts et al. are alphabetised: as a T
If The Zulu is also alphabetised this way, the letter space for the last two Civs is Po - (The) Z
They could both be "The" civs. The Iriquous would fit Purple And Cream. And the coincidence of colour is precisely that - a coincidence of colour.
/me still has no firm opinion, but is enjoying the debate.
*edit* Another avenue for checking - is the "new" purple equidistant from any other similar colours? It could be just that they picked one that didn't cause confusion compared to similar colours ...
poom3619
Ping Pang Poom!
Did you know The Iroquois is in first 18 civ in main game, you... whatever.
These thread make me feel like to insult someone.
EDIT: I'll do cyberxkhan's request then.
None of it hinges on the alphabetical achievements, and the alphabetical list from the previous expansion was different in the achievements list (Celts, the as compared to The Celts) depending on source if I recall.
The odds of having such a "coincidence of colour" is about the same you go popping down the shops, buying a lottery ticket and winning the jackpot. Unless they got the colours from another source, then they almost certainly got it from Wikipedia's Venetian Flag.
Equidistant doesn't really have a solid meaning with the RGB values they use in the game, difference between perceived colour different and difference of the RGB values isn't linear from what I know of it.
The Iroquois are also in the game already, the discussion about them is whether they'd change their colours.
PerceeP927
Warlord
Percee's worried because a while ago he swore to eat everyone's hats if Venice were in BNW
good for you remembering that (and Menzies digging up the quote), I figured I was the most insignificant member of this forum but my antagonism towards Venice has drawn the slightest attention. Ego inflated.
I literally began my diet two days ago. I didn't plan for such a sudden intake in hat. Hopefully not too many caloric hats. I'd expect some tricksters to send edible ones.
I will go down to the last moment on this Venice thing, its how I am. I'm a Libertarian and a Sacramento Kings fan as proof (Americans should get this sorry).
I should explain bringing up the Iroquois; the Motte and Bailey and Axeman have not been resolved, yet only two civs remain. Because of this, I believe in a European civ and a Native American civ filling this spots (as well as much other evidence). To make this work, I see there being changes made to at least the Iroquois. Why? Why would they put a tomahawk using civ with the Iroquois. Two east coast NA tribes, yet no Mississippians, Navajo, Sioux, etc. seems unlikely. I think there is a change being made to the Iroquois to make them a more specified civ rather than the only NA civ. So they will maybe no longer be Iroquois, or they will be heavily changed.
I don't have an answer for the Motte and Bailey. Maybe means nothing.
Menzies, I must ask, since you base your theory of city-states on precedent (even if the sample size is very limited). Is there any precedent for the civ devs directly extracting a color from a flag (wikipedia specifically) to make the colors for a civ? It does seem like a strange move, does it not?
I'm here to be devil's advocate, I don't desire to slander but to challenge, I hope you understand. You have expressed your own desire to avoid Venice as well.
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