What is the alt-right?

[Ryika]

Personally, I believe the American Civil War II has already started.

It had started, with the terrorists from the Alt Right and the Terrorists from Antifa fighting each other on the streets, but things seem to have died down again.

Which is a bit of a bummer, really.

 

[Ajidica]

It had started, with the terrorists from the Alt Right and the Terrorists from Antifa fighting each other on the streets, but things seem to have died down again.

Which is a bit of a bummer, really.

If a street kerfuffle is a civil war, then France has been in a permanent civil war since 1815 and the UK had a decades long civil war in the 80s.

Both of which are patently silly ideas.

 

[HEF]

If a street kerfuffle is a civil war, then France has been in a permanent civil war since 1815 and the UK had a decades long civil war in the 80s.

Both of which are patently silly ideas.

I sense that you don't understand American politics (and war in its own territory).


The Americans have been at war since the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

The U.S. is still dealing with the psychological remnants of the first Civil War.

Yes, that's exactly how the conflict starts: the stockpiling of weapons over decades, then a few skirmishes break out into the streets. Then the encounters become more and more frequent, 'cause after all, a secret army doesn't want to reveal their true intentions when the opposing side is in political power, right? Especially if the U.S. possess the most devastating weapons on Earth that would wipe them out of existence, now would they?

No... so they do it real sneaky and in a underhanded way.


This is why the charlatan known as trump MUST be impeached among other reasons.

 

[Senethro]

While it is exceptionally unlikely, a general breakdown of civil order would probably be scariest in America of all developed countries just with the availability of firearms.

 

[Ryika]

Would also be very quick and one-sided though, because the firearms are not spread equally among political opinions..

 

[HEF]

Would also be very quick and one-sided though, because the firearms are not spread equally among political opinions..

No one can win a war with just firearms.

 

[Ryika]

No, but if one side has firearms, and the other side doesn't (have as many), that's a pretty good advantage.

 

[Ajidica]

I sense that you don't understand American politics (and war in its own territory).

Well, that escalated quickly.
Live in Minnesota (BEST STATE IN THE UNION) FWIW.

Yes, that's exactly how the conflict starts: the stockpiling of weapons over decades, then a few skirmishes break out into the streets. Then the encounters become more and more frequent, 'cause after all, a secret army doesn't want to reveal their true intentions when the opposing side is in political power, right? Especially if the U.S. possess the most devastating weapons on Earth that would wipe them out of existence, now would they?

Is there a secret army though?
A hundred-odd wierdos with hitlerjugend haircuts does not a secret army make, unless you have read way too much Turner Diaries fan-fic.
Also, the NSDAP came to public prominence because they expressly rejected the rules of the Weimar government and settled issues on their own with paramilitary intimidation and thug actions. They would show up to hold a rally and the police would be too scared/intimidated to say no.
All the "alt-reich" stateside is doing is whining that they aren't being treated nicely by the powers that be. The NSDAP would have worn that as a badge of pride, the alt-reich embraces their victimhood.

Civil wars happen when two organized groups exist in a single state and one of the groups decides that their goals can no longer be achieved working somewhat alongside the system. All major political groups in the United States are firmly wedded to keeping the US in one piece, any civil war is far off. Heck, even civil disturbances are a long way off.

This is why the charlatan known as trump MUST be impeached among other reasons.

There are many avenues by which His Trumpiness could be impeached, but building a secret army to foment civil war is not in my top 20.

 

[HEF]

Well, that escalated quickly.
Live in Minnesota (BEST STATE IN THE UNION) FWIW.

I don't understand what this means.

There are many avenues by which His Trumpiness could be impeached, but building a secret army to foment civil war is not in my top 20.

Only in your mind.

There's no "...could be impeached..."
He will be impeached.
It's done deal.

 

[Ajidica]

I don't understand what this means.

You said I don't understand American politics.
I noted that I live in America, Minnesota specifically.
If you were trying to say I don't understand American politics in a "wake up sheeple" sense, then you were very unclear.

There's no "...could be impeached..."
He will be impeached.
It's done deal.

Is it though?
Stupidity not an impeachable offense, and based on public knowledge, there is no offense His Trumpiness has committed which would lack an "innocence through ignorance"* defense. Being surrounded by a basket of inexplicables or self-serving plutocrats, however distasteful and unsavory, isn't a impeachable offense.

*Like how Reagan pleaded ignorance to Iran-Contra, when what should have resulted was multiple heads rolling at the NSC or Executive Branch for someone undertaking explicitly illegal actions.

 

[HEF]

>>>Ajidica

Look, I'm not gonna enter into a all-day text exchange in the CivFanatics forum with you regarding this topic.

I'll just end my part of the discussion by saying,

"Watch and learn."

 

[Traitorfish]

The U.S. is still dealing with the psychological remnants of the first Civil War.

In what sense?

If it was as simple as inherited resentment of the Union manifesting as support for Trump, how do we explain some of his strongest margins of victory coming in areas that did not identify strongly with the Confederacy or with slavery during the Civil War, which were often emphatically anti-secessionist? His strongest state win was West Virginia, a state which exists because its population so adamantly rejected secession. On a more local and anecdotal level, Jones County, Mississippi, and Scott County, Tennessee, both famously declared independence from their parent states in favour of the Union; Trump won the former with over 71% of the vote, the latter with over 85% of the vote.

There is a difference, it is important to keep in mind, but memory and myth. Between what is remembered about the Civil War, and what is imagined about the Civil War, and its association with Confederate flags in Appalachia and on the Plains- let alone in the Midwest- strongly undermines the idea that the rise of the nationalist right in the United States has terrible much to do with the ghost of Jefferson Davis.

 

[Ajidica]

>>>Ajidica

Look, I'm not gonna enter into a all-day text exchange in the CivFanatics forum with you regarding this topic.

Awww, I had nothing else going on today and this was a good excuse to avoid doing laundry.

"Watch and learn."

Any chance of pulling a Nostradamus and leaving us with some prophecies about the impeachment of His Trumpiness?

 

[Ryika]

One. Trump was orange but isn't as orange anymore.
Two. Peach, that's sort of relatively close to the color of skin
Three. Therefor, because he was orange before, and now is no longer orange but instead has a peach-like skin-tone one can reasonably claim that Trump has indeed already been impeached.
- Ken Ham

 

[Virote_Considon]

Can we all just agree that at a base level the alt-right are weeaboo nazis?

 

[Senethro]

The anime thing does puzzle me but I guess thats an indication of a strong imprint of chan culture upon them.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Here's my very succinct (some may call it simplistic) definition of the alt-right:
Nazis who don't have the balls to call themselves Nazis.

 

[Traitorfish]

Can we all just agree that at a base level the alt-right are weeaboo nazis?

The term you're looking for is "Wehraboos".

 

[Cutlass]

Would also be very quick and one-sided though, because the firearms are not spread equally among political opinions..

Far more-so than you would think..

 

[Ryika]

Far more-so than you would think..