What is "The Great Mistake"?

[IncessantMace]

Sounds like they might be hinting at the Nordic countries and Germany becoming a new faction.

 

[gunnergoz]

Sounds like they might be hinting at the Nordic countries and Germany becoming a new faction.

Absolutely agree that there seems deliberate space for DLC factions including those you mention, and perhaps a Japan/Korea faction, a Middle East faction and even a UK/British Isles faction. I would not be surprised to see them come out in the next 90 days, perhaps in time for the Holiday shopping season.

 

[Antilogic]

Sounds like they might be hinting at the Nordic countries and Germany becoming a new faction.

Coming to your game this Christmas.

 

[IncessantMace]

Toss an Eagle or Lion on there and that is perfect!

 

[Mount Suribachi]

Absolutely agree that there seems deliberate space for DLC factions including those you mention, and perhaps a Japan/Korea faction, a Middle East faction and even a UK/British Isles faction. I would not be surprised to see them come out in the next 90 days, perhaps in time for the Holiday shopping season.

Meh, with the current demographics you're probably better off as the PAU or Protectorate if you want to play Britain in 200 years

Assuming we aren't under 10 feet of water following TGM.

 

[gunnergoz]

Meh, with the current demographics you're probably better off as the PAU or Protectorate if you want to play Britain in 200 years

Assuming we aren't under 10 feet of water following TGM.

I wasn't speaking of what I want to play but rather what seemed to be deliberately left open in the map they discuss in the Firaxicon video.

Personally, I'd like to see a bit more imaginative factions in any future DLC, perhaps factions based on trades/professions or philosophies and not just geographic. ARC is a step in that direction. What immediately comes to mind is a more exploration based faction, for instance, with improved sight and movement.

 

[Esmer]

This is one of the most totalitarian flag designs I've ever seen.
The other "German Scandinavian flag" looks much friendlier:

This was actually a serious proposal for Western Germany's flag after WW2.

As for the Great Mistake, it would be funny if they mentioned Civ's fascination with Elvis Presley again and the GM was actually some sort of Elvis Cloning program that backfired horribly.

 

[Pavlovs_Archer]

This is one of the most totalitarian flag designs I've ever seen.
The other "German Scandinavian flag" looks much friendlier:

This was actually a serious proposal for Western Germany's flag after WW2.

As for the Great Mistake, it would be funny if they mentioned Civ's fascination with Elvis Presley again and the GM was actually some sort of Elvis Cloning program that backfired horribly.

Great looking flag! I think a faction from the union of the Scandinavian/Nordic/Germanic nations would make a lot of sense.

The Great Mistake? That's easy...my first marriage.

 

[Esmer]

Great looking flag! I think a faction from the union of the Scandinavian/Nordic/Germanic nations would make a lot of sense.

The Great Mistake? That's easy...my first marriage.

If they do this, I really hope they refrain from the temptation to make them Das Space Reich and give them instead an enviromentalist Gaia's stepdaughters sort of flavor. Enviromentalism is quite a big thing in Northern Europe.

By what I've seen so far, the current factions shticks can be roughly summed up as:

SF: Explorers
ARC: Spymasters
FI: Culture
AU: Population growth
Polystralia: Free markets
Brasilia: Military
KP: Spiritual
PAC: efficient administration of large empires (?) I may be thinking too much about Chairman Yang here

So still room for a bunch of tree-loving, Harmony-aligned space Hippies.

 

[Pavlovs_Archer]

If they do this, I really hope they refrain from the temptation to make them Das Space Reich and give them instead an enviromentalist Gaia's stepdaughters sort of flavor. Enviromentalism is quite a big thing in Northern Europe.

Agreed 100% on Das Sapce Reich. Not the direction needed for that faction at all...

 

[KrikkitTwo]

My personal version
CSE: Confederate States of Europe; Baltic, Germany, Nordic, Britain, all 'north europe' (loose confederation formed as EU dissolved)
-10% energy maintenance (units, buildings, and tiles)
because those areas have a current reputation for not terribly ineffective bureaucracy...and 'terraforming' in the low countries.

 

[Civ'ed]

What about a environmentalist Spess Reich?

 

[PrimoXanthous]

im telling you dud., its ebola..

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

The Chinese accuse Iran, fire tactical nukes at Iranian cities, and invade Afghanistan. Pakistan conducts air strikes against China, and China retaliates by nuking Pakistan. Pakistan counter-nukes, triggering further Chinese nuclear attacks against Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and, of all places, N. Korea.

The Chinese leadership goes insane. Truly a compelling tale.

 

[Esmer]

I think we should forget the "official" Great Mistake story (the devs said themselves, it was mainly for development purposes).

It is so much better to leave it ambigous.

Just like it was better to leave the events of the Horus Heresy in the realm of legends - too bad they decided to make a soap opera out of it.

What about a environmentalist Spess Reich?

Amusingly, the 3rd Reich had some of the - for its time - most progressive policies on enviromental and animal protection.

But please, no Space Nazis. It's been done to death.

I am very positively surprized that they didn't make the SF a space Soviet Union either, but rather went with the Russian tradition of exploring and discovering the unknown (Siberian tundra expeditions for example), something which has also heavily influenced Soviet/Russian sci-fi (the stories are more often about exploring unknown and infinite realms rather than interstellar conflicts with alien invaders etc)

 

[gunnergoz]

For cripe's sake people, give the space nazis, bionic bolsheviks and solar soviets a rest already. Has no one any creative imagination any more? Or will we be seeing the same stinking dead horses zombiefied over and over again, ad nauseum?

 

[Lord Tirian]

The Chinese leadership goes insane. Truly a compelling tale.

That's a bit over simplified, though. It also posits that China is a world power rivalling the US at that point and already had a "cold" conflict with Iran that just needed something to ignite it.

And it's definitely a slightly unusual take on the nuclear exchange thing in not making everything Mad Max or World War Three (in terms of participants, though scale certainly is there).

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

That's a bit over simplified, though. It also posits that China is a world power rivalling the US at that point and already had a "cold" conflict with Iran that just needed something to ignite it.

So if they match the US, they become nuke-happy (read that list of targets again)? Even the USSR wasn't that insane (except in US portrayals).

 

[gunnergoz]

So if they match the US, they become nuke-happy (read that list of targets again)? Even the USSR wasn't that insane (except in US portrayals).

Have a underlying perspective you care to share with us? Because coming out of the blue, that statement makes no sense to me at all.

 

[Esmer]

Have a underlying perspective you care to share with us? Because coming out of the blue, that statement makes no sense to me at all.

I think he is criticizing the idea that once the PRC becomes leading world power they will actually use nuclear warfare, something even the Soviets didn't when they were one of the two super powers.